Re: Is nationalism dead ?
as far as leagues----yes
not for the world cup though, everyone returns to there home country.
Re: Is nationalism dead ?
Duh :ermm:
obviously, do you think ex-expatriates will play for national teams or what. :sick:
Re: Is nationalism dead ?
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BawA
Duh :ermm:
obviously, do you think ex-expatriates will play for national teams or what. :sick:
Then duh, a professional team is just that.
The aim isn't nationalism. It's to win.:dry:
I think it's stupid to eliminate others from playing on professional team based on nationality.
Are these teams solely owned by the government?
If not then the government should fuck off and teams should be allowed to continue seeking out the best players available.
Re: Is nationalism dead ?
i never said to eliminate(can yo find that i said), all am asking is a pro club shouldnt come to stage where no local player is among it, as Blatter said atleast 5 local players should be among it.
if clubs stop hiring local players then a national teams soon wont have any body to play with, local talent will just disappear since national team doesn't play much and soon there will be no national team and then no WorldCup. nobody will put his time on something which pays by matches, national teams are seasonal.
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BawA
i never said to eliminate(can yo find that i said), all am asking is a pro club shouldnt come to stage where no local player is among it, as Blatter said atleast 5 local players should be among it.
if clubs stop hiring local players then a national teams soon wont have any body to play with, local talent will just disappear since national team doesn't play much and soon there will be no national team and then no WorldCup. nobody will put his time on something which pays by matches, national teams are seasonal.
That makes no sense to me.
People play for a national team for patriotism not money (well there are endorsements).
I'd be very surprised if the Italians playing for an English club don't wanna play for Italy when it comes time and similar for an Englishman playing for an Italian club.
What you propose is in direct contrast to the free market and making a living. It's downright unAmerican.........:pinch:
Re: Is nationalism dead ?
i know what you mean for Example my cities team Guadalajara FC is the only team in
Mexico that has only Mexican nationals ,but i think if all teams did this it would take away from the beauty of the sport i can´t picture Barcelona playing at the level they do with oot any of the non spanish team members or any team for that matter
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The aim isn't nationalism. It's to win.:dry:
I think it's stupid to eliminate others from playing on professional team based on nationality.
Although I agree, what's the point in keeping a cities name, if they don't represent it anymore? :blink:
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Busyman
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BawA
i never said to eliminate(can yo find that i said), all am asking is a pro club shouldnt come to stage where no local player is among it, as Blatter said atleast 5 local players should be among it.
if clubs stop hiring local players then a national teams soon wont have any body to play with, local talent will just disappear since national team doesn't play much and soon there will be no national team and then no WorldCup. nobody will put his time on something which pays by matches, national teams are seasonal.
That makes no sense to me.
People play for a national team for patriotism not money (well there are endorsements).
I'd be very surprised if the Italians playing for an English club don't wanna play for Italy when it comes time and similar for an Englishman playing for an Italian club.
What you propose is in direct contrast to the free market and making a living. It's downright unAmerican.........:pinch:
do you think those who play for national teams are selected from street or what? they are selected from the local clubs, if local club stop using local talents and stop finding new face soon there will be no new resources to put in commission for national team and nobody will put his time exclusively on a national team because as i said its not a fixed job its seasonal, also there is no national team which has a permanent timetable. you may say they're also selected from foreign clubs but majority of players start their career from local clubs then move.
for now you may think there is enough local players to choose from but once they loss their edge and youth who do you think national team will select from and clubs dont hire/train them any more.
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i know what you mean for Example my cities team Guadalajara FC is the only team in
Mexico that has only Mexican nationals ,but i think if all teams did this it would take away from the beauty of the sport i can´t picture Barcelona playing at the level they do with oot any of the non spanish team members or any team for that matter
again, i didnt say to play with locals only all am saying is to give hidden talents a chance to show up.
sport was a beauty, now days its all about the Benjamin's, they dont want to represent any1, way or other they want to win to cash in more.
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BawA
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Busyman
That makes no sense to me.
People play for a national team for patriotism not money (well there are endorsements).
I'd be very surprised if the Italians playing for an English club don't wanna play for Italy when it comes time and similar for an Englishman playing for an Italian club.
What you propose is in direct contrast to the free market and making a living. It's downright unAmerican.........:pinch:
do you think those who play for national teams are selected from street or what? they are selected from the local clubs, if local club stop using local talents and stop finding new face soon there will be no new resources to put in commission for national team and nobody will put his time exclusively on a national team because as i said its not a fixed job its seasonal, also there is no national team which has a permanent timetable. you may say they're also selected from foreign clubs but majority of players start their career from local clubs then move.
for now you may think there is enough local players to choose from but once they loss their edge and youth who do you think national team will select from and clubs dont hire/train them any more.
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i know what you mean for Example my cities team Guadalajara FC is the only team in
Mexico that has only Mexican nationals ,but i think if all teams did this it would take away from the beauty of the sport i can´t picture Barcelona playing at the level they do with oot any of the non spanish team members or any team for that matter
again, i didnt say to play with locals only all am saying is to give hidden talents a chance to show up.
sport was a beauty, now days its all about the Benjamin's, they dont want to represent any1, way or other they want to win to cash in more.
Again you are mixing national team and professional teams then.
It is the professional team's job to pick from the best talent out there to win. There are already restrictions in place regarding foreign players and many times the local players demand way more money....if you wanna talk about Benjamins
You propose some local quota as if local players don't get a chance. I think it's bullshit to say hire a local player if he's not good enough or costs way too much.
Last time I checked Arsenal was called just that and not England.
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Busyman
The aim isn't nationalism. It's to win.:dry:
I think it's stupid to eliminate others from playing on professional team based on nationality.
Although I agree, what's the point in keeping a cities name, if they don't represent it anymore? :blink:
Oh so Arsenal and Chelsea have to have folks from London and Man U has to have folks from Manchester?
Yeah that makes a ton of sense.