Finalizations

Ive been doing alot of looking on newegg for the stuff I want in my new comp and this is what ive come up with. The concern that I have, is the ram is it gonna be too much?

Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144026

Optical Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827152035

Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148069

Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145575


PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151024

Processor(Fuck yea!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539

Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102496

Motherboard(S)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127196
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128283

HSF
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185115

Cable Sleeving (Maybe)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812999032

GPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186116

Im probbly gonna go for the ABIT mobo, I think the only thing that would change my mind is a money situation but I should be to go with all that ive chosen. Ive read alot of reviews on both mobos and there both really good :ermm: Ideas? (clocker, I know your still rootin for ur board! :mellow: )

I think the 2x1GB RAM is a mistake.
One of the biggest benefits of the a64 architecture is the improved memory controllers and I'm pretty sure that you'll have to loosen up those gig sticks to get them stable.
I'm not sure they will run at 1T either, but that's just a guess.


Any of the mobos will be fine...I know how attached you are to the LEDs and other bling goodies so your choice of the ABIT comes as no surprise.

We'll have to trade benchmarks when you get that thing running...I'd be interested to see how the SD and Winnie compare heads-up, at the same clock speeds.

I just realised you haven't mentioned which model snow-blower you are going to fit. Getting the wrong model could seriously affect your system temps. :blink:

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Originally Posted by lynx

I just realised you haven't mentioned which model snow-blower you are going to fit. Getting the wrong model could seriously affect your system temps. :blink:

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Snow blower?

@clocker, what do you recommend for the ram them? oh yea and why wouldnt they be stable? I dont wanna buy 2 gigs of 4 512 sticks its just too costly, unless I downgrade on the brand or get 1 GB, even tho id really love to have 2.
Just when I thought all I had picked out was good to go.. :( :dry: :frusty:

1Gb should really be enough, buy 1GB now and you have the option in the future to replace that 1GB with 2 1GB sticks with the newer speeds.

No point spending $300 when $150 will get the same proformance then in 3 years go to buy the new stuff and have waisted all the extra money.

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1Gb should really be enough, buy 1GB now and you have the option in the future to replace that 1GB with 2 1GB sticks with the newer speeds.

No point spending $300 when $150 will get the same proformance then in 3 years go to buy the new stuff and have waisted all the extra money.

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See the problem is this is a one time deal, after this im gonna have to buy all my stuff myself if I ever get a job. So I was hoping to get the best stuff I can now so I wont have to worry about upgrading soon. I was thinking, If it doesnt work and I cant get it to work properly ect.... or whatever may happen, I could return it and just get a gig. :blink:

Thing is 2Gb will give or take add 1 fps over your 1GB, and after a few years both sticks of ram will be out of date on the speed side so will need replacing if you want to keep the system in top shape.

So that extra GB of ram is gonna give you an extra FPS on games for the next 3-5 years, then be useless. It'll just save whoever's paying for it a few hundred bucks.

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Thing is 2Gb will give or take add 1 fps over your 1GB, and after a few years both sticks of ram will be out of date on the speed side so will need replacing if you want to keep the system in top shape.

So that extra GB of ram is gonna give you an extra FPS on games for the next 3-5 years, then be useless. It'll just save whoever's paying for it a few hundred bucks.

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3-5 years eh. :lookaroun This is something that im gonna really think about. :ermm: :frusty:

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Thing is 2Gb will give or take add 1 fps over your 1GB, and after a few years both sticks of ram will be out of date on the speed side so will need replacing if you want to keep the system in top shape.

So that extra GB of ram is gonna give you an extra FPS on games for the next 3-5 years, then be useless. It'll just save whoever's paying for it a few hundred bucks.

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3-5 years eh. :lookaroun This is something that im gonna really think about. :ermm: :frusty:

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Its not that far away, can you remember the first time you played NFSU 1. Well that was almost 3 years ago, if you had brought the RAM then, then by now you would start to need newer stuff to keep your gaming fix going.

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3-5 years eh. :lookaroun This is something that im gonna really think about. :ermm: :frusty:

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Its not that far away, can you remember the first time you played NFSU 1. Well that was almost 3 years ago, if you had brought the RAM then, then by now you would start to need newer stuff to keep your gaming fix going.

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Me has NFSU1 for ps2 :pinch: I must see what clocker has to say since hes got 2GB, if its worth it or not. :ermm: I need more suggestions! :unsure: :ermm: :frusty:

LP,
My setup will NOT run 4x512 sticks of RAM at 1T.
It would NOT run 2x1GB (mid-range Geil) at 1T, either.

The best setup in terms of sheer performance is 2x512MB.

Granted, this might be a limitation of my motherboard or the memory controller of the Winchester....maybe a combination of the two, IDK.

I've sold off the other two 512's and the Geils (which weren't that good to begin with anyway) and now run just the pair of Patriot 512's.
Only running 1GB has never been a problem for me.

Alright, If it doesnt work, I'll return it and just get 1 gig I guess.

Im choosing to use this thread to continue my journey into the world of computer hardware, consider the other was a COMPLETE disaster so why not get back into things yes? Since I'll be in florida for about a month and a half, I'll wait things out and see what happens with the inventory. Right now Mobo choice one #1 is out of stock, mobo #2 (plan B..clockers Mobo), HD, and soon to be the Freezer. My uncle doesnt really want me to order the stuff now so whatever happens, happens right? Im thinking of reconsidering my choice of videocard and HD. Getting something like these-> LINK
I dont know what the difference is between them. I was also considering THIS video card for the performance boost compared to the X800PRO, for not much more.

Well, I have to say that an extra $81 for a raid controller you will never use, and some dickhead's name on the board (I bet he wouldn't have bought one) seems a little excessive anyway.

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Well, I have to say that an extra $81 for a raid controller you will never use, and some dickhead's name on the board (I bet he wouldn't have bought one) seems a little excessive anyway.

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About that mobo, I was gonna go with clockers as a second choice but I think I'll have to wait and see how things go. :blink: :ermm:

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Well, I have to say that an extra $81 for a raid controller you will never use, and some dickhead's name on the board (I bet he wouldn't have bought one) seems a little excessive anyway.

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You forgot the underboard LEDs.
They have to be worth something.

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Well, I have to say that an extra $81 for a raid controller you will never use, and some dickhead's name on the board (I bet he wouldn't have bought one) seems a little excessive anyway.

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You forgot the underboard LEDs.
They have to be worth something.

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That and the OTES RAMFLOW fans on the board and the ones that go over the ram. :cry:

Too bad you can't get it, huh?

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Originally Posted by clocker

Too bad you can't get it, huh?

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Zipzoomfly has it, along with your mobo :)

EDIT: They had it just a few minutes ago, now its outta stock. However yours is is still in stock. :mellow:

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Too bad you can't get it, huh?

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Zipzoomfly has it, along with your mobo :)

EDIT: They had it just a few minutes ago, now its outta stock.

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dont u have a futureshop nearby or something?

and if u live in Canada (thats what it says in ur profile) i dont think zipzoomfly ships to canada and the same goes for newegg :01:

I know, Im getting this stuff in florida.

The mobo I was taking about ($81 cheaper) was the Abit AN8, so you still get the flickering lights.

Or go for the AN8-SLI board, you don't get the ram fans, but you DO get heatpipe cooling on the northbridge chip so there's less heat in the box, 7.1 channel audio (vs 5.1), and still save $21.

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The mobo I was taking about ($81 cheaper) was the Abit AN8, so you still get the flickering lights.

Or go for the AN8-SLI board, you don't get the ram fans, but you DO get heatpipe cooling on the northbridge chip so there's less heat in the box, 7.1 channel audio (vs 5.1), and still save $21.

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oh ya, will I be able to use the X800PRO or X800XL with the SLI setup? :blink:

I don't thing any Radeon card supports SLI....

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The mobo I was taking about ($81 cheaper) was the Abit AN8, so you still get the flickering lights.

Or go for the AN8-SLI board, you don't get the ram fans, but you DO get heatpipe cooling on the northbridge chip so there's less heat in the box, 7.1 channel audio (vs 5.1), and still save $21.

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oh ya, will I be able to use the X800PRO or X800XL with the SLI setup? :blink:

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You can use an x800 in a pci-x slot on that board, if that's what you are asking. You can't, however, run two of them in SLi (like clocker says), if that's what you are asking :unsure:

ya thats what I was asking, I only need one video card for now so I dont think I wanna get an SLI board.

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I only need one video card for now so I dont think I wanna get an SLI board.

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But later you might need two?
Be sure what you are doing here, a second chance will be expensive.

I decided, after looking at ATI and nVidia's roadmaps, that one dual core or next gen card would keep pace with two lesser cards in SLI.
I also knew that if I had a slot available for the second card I'd go crazy till I filled it, so my decision not to go SLI was partly based on my take on the future and partly on simple economics.

You'd best be absolutely certain how you stand on this...if you're not sure why not just get the DFI SLI LanParty and cover all the bases?

My point was that by going for the SLI board you swap the memory fans for heatpipe cooling on the northbridge, and save $21. You could quite easily rig up a couple of fans for that money, and you've got an SLI board for the future just in case you ever want it. For free. To me, that's a no-brainer.

Alright, Ive been messing around looking at different stuff and playing with prices to see whats suitable. Deciding maybe to get clocker Gigabyte K8N-Ultra9 mobo, 1 GB or ram (need help choosing, corsair perferably..2x512) and the OEM of the seagate 160GB hd I wanted to get originally, It dropped the total cost a few hundred which is really nice. That way I can work a X850XTPE into the picture :D Heres what ive come up with.

Case
Motherboard
DVD Burner
Harddrive
Power Supply
Processor
Video Card
Ram

Im also iffy on that video card fitting since its got that beefy cooling on it, and the placement of the Northbridge cooler... Kinda of stupid to have it right infront of the PCI-E slot :(

http://www.guru3d.com/admin/imageview.php?image=4733

EDIT: This is the mobo shown in the pic above, HERE
Would it be worth getting? Its cheaper the the ABIT SLI board and its got a fan on the NB which I like.

Why don't you get a quality case that would have a quality power supply?

Or even a quality case without a power supply.

And what's with that expensive unknown brand power supply when you can get something like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103937 for $50 less.

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Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234

Why don't you get a quality case that would have a quality power supply?

Or even a quality case without a power supply.

And what's with that expensive unknown brand power supply when you can get something like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103937 for $50 less.

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:sick: I like that case. According to clocker that Seasonic PSU is supposed to be good. :ermm:

VB, I think you've missed some of the previous posts (in another thread).

I've got almost the same PSU (marketed by Akasa in Europe) and it's the best PSU I've encountered. Voltages are ROCK steady, and it is virtually silent yet still blowing cool air.

Unless something untoward happens (or someone comes along with totally silent cooling) I will be buying these for all future systems.

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VB, I think you've missed some of the previous posts (in another thread).

I've got almost the same PSU (marketed by Akasa in Europe) and it's the best PSU I've encountered. Voltages are ROCK steady, and it is virtually silent yet still blowing cool air.

Unless something untoward happens (or someone comes along with totally silent cooling) I will be buying these for all future systems.

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Maybe so but still quite expensive compared with the one I posted.

I still think the case is poor quality.

I know that case may be cheap in price and whatnot but its the only one I like.

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I know that case may be cheap in price...

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I never evaluate a product based solely on price. There are plently of good products at bargain prices.

What I'm saying is that the case looks like it has very thin metal. I have worked on PCs with similar cases. Not quality imo.

http://images10.newegg.com/productim...144-026-39.JPG

Well since the whole comps gonna be almost 1700$ I think I should stay with it instead of jacking up the price more, dont you think? :blink: :unsure: :ermm:

Here is an example of a better built case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129158

$125 with 500W Antec SmartPower.

What you're looking at is $129 PSU + $55 case. So $184 total.

I'm not saying that you should choose the one I posted but with a budget of $184 you should be able to find a good quality case with PSU.

This has become our "standard build" case and I quite like it for the money.

Better than average cooling.

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This has become our "standard build" case and I quite like it for the money.

Better than average cooling.

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Interesting case I must add..