Re: A case of political "near-violence", I guess...
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JPaul
Why then does he still feel the need to murder, unless the whole thing was about hate and sectarianism and they will never be satisfied.
Do you mean to say he might be addicted to terrorism.
Do you think others might be so affected.
I think it may be more political than that, stability in Northern Ireland is seen by some as playing into the hands of the Catholics, and the eventual uniting of the island of Ireland. Included in the Good Friday agreement are a number of cross border agreements, including the creation of a North-South Ministerial Council and North-South Implementation Bodies to bring about cross-border cooperation in policy and programmes on a number of issues.
The main tenet of the agreement was that the constitutional future of Northern Ireland should be determined by the majority vote of its citizens. That means the people of Ulster could, if they so desired, vote to re-unite with the Republic. Stability in the north, and the creation of wealth through peace and cooperation with the Republic could well sway enough Protestant voters to see a better future in a united Ireland.
Housing estates for Catholics and Protestants are being planned across Ulster now after the success of new, unsegregated estates in Belfast. No-one is forced to live there, you must apply, and the waiting list is years long, proving the two sides can co-exist, and are willing to do so. One women who was interviewed from one of these estates said she had no desire to know what religion her neighbours were, and didn't care.
I see a bright future for Ulster, although there are still two important things that need to happen pretty quickly, Sinn Féin need to recognise the police force of the North, and Ian Paisley needs to meet his maker.
Re: A case of political "near-violence", I guess...
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Ava Estelle
I see a bright future for Ulster, although there are still two important things that need to happen pretty quickly, Sinn Féin need to recognise the police force of the North, and Ian Paisley needs to meet his maker.
Amen to that, except that I understand that Paisley's son (Ian Jr.) is well on the way to replacing his father, and from what I gather he's as bad as his father, if not worse.
Re: A case of political "near-violence", I guess...
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Ava Estelle
I see a bright future for Ulster, although there are still two important things that need to happen pretty quickly, Sinn Féin need to recognise the police force of the North, and Ian Paisley needs to meet his maker.
Amen to that, except that I understand that Paisley's son (Ian Jr.) is well on the way to replacing his father, and from what I gather he's as bad as his father, if not worse.
Then I am right about the aspect of an irrational addiction.
So to speak.
Do you think this condition peculiar to Eire, or could it possibly exist in, say, the mid-east.
Re: A case of political "near-violence", I guess...
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lynx
Amen to that, except that I understand that Paisley's son (Ian Jr.) is well on the way to replacing his father, and from what I gather he's as bad as his father, if not worse.
Then I am right about the aspect of an irrational addiction.
So to speak.
Do you think this condition peculiar to Eire, or could it possibly exist in, say, the mid-east.
I think it is probably world wide, Europe, Middle East, Russia, USA, Indonesia. You name it, you will find nutters like these.
Re: A case of political "near-violence", I guess...
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j2k4
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lynx
Amen to that, except that I understand that Paisley's son (Ian Jr.) is well on the way to replacing his father, and from what I gather he's as bad as his father, if not worse.
Then I am right about the aspect of an irrational addiction.
So to speak.
Do you think this condition peculiar to Eire, or could it possibly exist in, say, the mid-east.
IMO it exists wherever there are factions of any religion.
Noun 1. http://img.tfd.com/dict/11/6751D-eire.gifEire - a republic consisting of 26 of 32 counties comprising the island of Ireland; achieved independence from the United Kingdom in 1921. It is now called the Republic Of Ireland. Not pointing out an error, only a misconception.:)
Re: A case of political "near-violence", I guess...
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I'd like to see a referendum in England, Scotland and Wales asking the people if Ireland should be united, I think the answer would be a resounding yes. I'm not sure if the Irish people are really aware that it isn't the people of Britain who insist that Ulster remains part of the UK, but a minority of Irish.
I'd like to see a referendum in England, Scotland and Wales on to whether we want to continue to have Ulster as part of the United Kingdom.
The sooner they become a completely independent state the better, then they can decide for themselves whether they want to unite with the Irish Republic (if they'll still have them), or whether they want to stay independent, or whether they want to blow themselves to shit.
I'm sick of it being "our problem". We've got more important problems now ffs, such as Iraq and Afghanistan :whistling
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Ava Estelle
I'd like to see a referendum in England, Scotland and Wales asking the people if Ireland should be united, I think the answer would be a resounding yes. I'm not sure if the Irish people are really aware that it isn't the people of Britain who insist that Ulster remains part of the UK, but a minority of Irish.
I'd like to see a referendum in England, Scotland and Wales on to whether we want to continue to have Ulster as part of the United Kingdom.
The sooner they become a completely independent state the better, then they can decide for themselves whether they want to unite with the Irish Republic (
if they'll still have them), or whether they want to stay independent, or whether they want to blow themselves to shit.
I'm sick of it being "our problem". We've got more important problems now ffs, such as Iraq and Afghanistan :whistling
That woud be a big IF.:rolleyes: It would not help the souths unemployment stats, unless they hunted all the foreigners out of Dublin and gave the jobs to people from the north. The last time I was in Dublin I think I met about three Irish people.:lol:
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I lived in Dublin for 2 years. It's a terrific place, and the people are great. :happy:
Dublin is actually more British than Majorca.
Re: A case of political "near-violence", I guess...
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lynx
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j2k4
Then I am right about the aspect of an irrational addiction.
So to speak.
Do you think this condition peculiar to Eire, or could it possibly exist in, say, the mid-east.
I think it is probably world wide, Europe, Middle East, Russia, USA, Indonesia. You name it, you will find nutters like these.
Hmmm.
I was led to believe the ones in the mid-east merely hated the west.
I am enlightened.
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j2k4
Then I am right about the aspect of an irrational addiction.
So to speak.
Do you think this condition peculiar to Eire, or could it possibly exist in, say, the mid-east.
IMO it exists wherever there are factions of any religion.
Noun 1. http://img.tfd.com/dict/11/6751D-eire.gifEire - a republic consisting of 26 of 32 counties comprising the island of Ireland; achieved independence from the United Kingdom in 1921. It is now called the Republic Of Ireland. Not pointing out an error, only a misconception.:)
Thank you, Robert. :)