Here's a thought.

[Squizzle]

Why is it that people are hellbent on getting into trackers that don't want or require new members, yet when some budding sysop comes along, announces a new site and invites everyone to join in, they tend to be shot down with "what makes your site so special", "what's different", "why should i join", etc.

If I was looking to get into new sites, I'd be jumping at the opportunity to take part in new communities and see where they lead.

At least I'd have a better chance of contributing something useful and have my foot in the door from the start.

So, if you're looking to join communitiues, next time a friendly face comes along and announces the launch of a new site, why not jump right in?

You've said it yourselves, you get the same files at the end of the day anyway

Or am I wrong?

[stoi]

Its probably just the collectors that say that, they have everything they want anyway, (if you are not a collector and say that then i appologize)

other aspect is security, to many sites have come and gone, some with users passwords not encrypted and got hacked, so its just the ones in the know, being ultra careful.

what gets me is, those that say that, or most anyway, if that very same site, closed after a month and 1000 members, went on the WTAW thread, 1 year later was a lvl 4 they would all be clamouring to get into the thing.

[killercam101]

Many of the new trackers try to compete against giants like ScT and TL but without the users to actually get those fast pre times or handle server cost. If you look at btracs it shows sites have been alive for more than 2-3 years that have open signups and offer the same thing as ScT and TL. As for people getting pissed at new trackers they're just mad cuz they wasted their seedbox bandwidth buffering a tracker that closed down in a month.

[integral]

It's even funnier when those hellbent people have these "dreams" of sticking their e-dick in certain trackers, and then bash websites like ScL because they don't have hundreds of torrents uploaded everyday and don't have tons of users.

[saulin]

Because a lot of people here are tarders and collectors and don't care about some new tracker taht is not worth anything according to the WTAW thread. If you haven't noticed yet. There are a lot of people that are here for the trading and to collect trackers.

I do also think that there is no need for new trackers unless they do offer something especial and unless they have what it takes to get a good site running. Seriously why start another 0-day tracker and try to compete with so many good trackers that already exist? Make it especial and then you'll have a chance.

[yevgeny]

Why is it that people are hellbent on getting into trackers that don't want or require new members

if we made torrentbytes level 8 people would trade their aunties for it.

the thing is i dont think there has been many general trackers made recently that can rival the established good ones like torrentleech, so why would they want to join those?

if i was going to make a new tracker i would make it something with original theme and content along the lines of vintage cartoons, elearning, music videos they've all been done i know but theres room for improvement with some. theres way too many good 0day trackers available for a newcomer to break through that and get active members.

[stoi]

What i do not understand is this.

When someone makes a new tracker, and it has everything, its automatically a 0 day tracker, and members here tell them to get fast pre-times and everything else that goes with a 0 day tracker.

Then they get told in the post below that there is no room for a another 0 day tracker.

can a tracker not have everything, and be more like KG/BCG/What/waffles etc where its all on content for everything, and not just 0 day crap all the time.

[integral]

Seriously why start another 0-day tracker and try to compete with so many good trackers that already exist? Make it especial and then you'll have a chance.

There's always room for another tracker, if the staff is dedicated to providing a quality server (low downtime, decent amount of torrents uploaded). Not everyone can get into those good trackers that already exist. Shit like the WTAW thread makes those decent trackers seem worthless, and makes trackers seem so great but so hard to get into, making people resort to trading or scamming to attempt to get into them.

The more decent options there are for getting your files, the less trading/scamming/dreaming for other trackers there will be. I'll concede to the point that a lot of these new comeup trackers are poorly planned, and not very secure, but the attitude of a lot of users here are "TL4lyfe ScT4lyfe dreaming of FtN fuck your tracker and your efforts."

As rvt said in another post, bad things happen when it's just a few popular sites that have the majority of the private torrent tracker users. Not everyone has to be on one tracker, if the users are distributed amongst 20-30 decent 0-day trackers then it's a good thing.

It also makes me irritated when people complain about newer sites not comparing to sites like TL. I hear things like, TL has better speeds, more torrents, I can seed back great, etc. Well obviously, it's been alive for years and has _tons_ of users on it. What's the most irritating is when users brag about their 100:1 ratio on their torrents; think of all the people who can't get anything uploaded on a torrent at all, just because you think you're the shit with your seedbox and 1TB upload a day. And TL staff loves that I'm sure, more users who will have to resort to pay2leech in their eyes.

[JROQuinn]

If I was looking to get into new sites, I'd be jumping at the opportunity to take part in new communities and see where they lead.

Ill translate that quote.... "I'd join all the new trackers so if they become so 1337 then ill already be there! Therefore making my e-penis bigger than the next guy"

[buggyfresh]

My opinion is kind of in line with other comments..some (not all) of these new 0day trackers are maybe ppl trying to get into higher leveld ones on the WTAW list... some ppl are lazy and making a specialised tracker of any sort requires a lot of work and dedication, as usually such sites have few torrents (rather than users)... ppl seem to flock to 0day ones as 50% of torrenters just want the latest movie/album arther than are looking for quality or vintage stuff --> hence a whole heap of new 0day rather than say a magazine, comic book or comedy tracker....