Jewish settlers leaving the Gaza strip?

[RPerry]

*reminds everyone that RF isnt a Christian and hasnt read the short story collection that Christians/Jews all rave about...

I didn't know it was required to be Christian to read that book.

[MediaSlayer]

I don't have any books near me, I am using a public computer(as i still don't have an ISP of my own) but i would say off hand that after the deluge there existed three "root families" or "root races" that sprung from shem, ham, and japheth. the shem seed would later become refined into the semitic(jewish) people, the ham seed were connected to egypt(because egypt was known as the land of the sons of ham), and the japheth seed is probably the progenitor of modern day russians, chinese, and to a smaller extent the rest of the non-african world. now skipping way ahead, ahraham was born in modern day iraq, and he was a descendant of shem. the family moved around, landing in egypt(i think because of a famine). then they came up out of egypt and displaced the people that were there, like the hittites, the jebusites, ect...


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[whypikonme]

As Israeli forces removed residents from the last Jewish settlement still to be cleared in the Gaza Strip yesterday, Ariel Sharon sought to win back support from the Israeli right by promising continued expansion of Israel's West Bank colonies and no more unilateral pullouts.
The prime minister's remarks came as troops cleared Netzarim settlement, which Mr Sharon famously declared three years ago was as much part of Israel as Tel Aviv.

Yesterday, security forces removed the settlement's 120 families amid tears and fury but no physical resistance, completing the evacuation of all 21 Jewish settlements in the Gaza Strip in less than a week. The military originally said it would take three times as long.

Embittered Netzarim residents directed their ire at Mr Sharon for going back on his word. In an attempt to reassure the Israeli right, the prime minister told the Jerusalem Post that he will continue expanding Jewish settlements in the West Bank, which are home to about 400,000 people. "There will be building in the settlement blocks," he said. "Each government since 1967, right, left and national unity, has seen strategic importance in specific areas [in the occupied territories] I will build."

The newspaper said Mr Sharon specifically mentioned further construction in Ma'ale Adumim settlement, designed to link it to Jerusalem despite Washington's objections. He said that Ariel settlement, in the heart of the West Bank, would be annexed as "a part of Israel for ever". The prime minister also said there would be no further unilateral withdrawals.

Source.

[whypikonme]

It seems we have nothing to worry about here, the solution has already been worked out.

The Middle East has been in constant turmoil for decades. Many who are following world news wonder what will happen next, and what the final outcome will be. Yet very few realize that Bible prophecy explains in advance the earthshaking events that will lead to greater disasters in the region—and ultimately to World War III!

The Bible outlines end-time events leading up to Jesus Christ’s return. What happens in the Middle East, as His return draws near, will affect your life and the lives of everyone on earth. Understanding those events will help you to take action for your family’s welfare. You can escape the prophesied disasters and judgments (Luke 21:36) upon a warring and God-defying world.

The Middle East seems to bring the world a constant stream of bad news. Bible prophecy shows that this bad news will continue until Jesus Christ’s return. But once the world survives "Armageddon" in the Middle East, a time of good news will follow. Jerusalem will then live up to its name: "City of Peace."

A Millennium of peace and prosperity is coming, under the rulership of the Messiah. As King of kings, Jesus Christ will rule the earth from Jerusalem with justice and righteousness, and all nations on earth will learn a new way of life—the way to peace.

The Middle East in Prophecy.

So, all we need now is the Messiah, anyone heard when that might be?

[Rat Faced]

I laugh at the writers interpretation of the phrophesies...

The only country that can be said to be a Political, Military and Economic giant is the USA, and yet they say its the EU... which isnt even a country.

Ergo:
The USA is the home of the Beast; the False Prophet, the Anti-Christ... my bet would still be that its GW Bush... except I'm not a Christian and dont believe in an Anti-Christ...

I just think he's an evil bastard

[Biggles]

I laugh at the writers interpretation of the phrophesies...

The only country that can be said to be a Political, Military and Economic giant is the USA, and yet they say its the EU... which isnt even a country.

Ergo:
The USA is the home of the Beast; the False Prophet, the Anti-Christ... my bet would still be that its GW Bush... except I'm not a Christian and dont believe in an Anti-Christ...

I just think he's an evil bastard

May I join you for a chuckle?

I thought one of the big complaints about Europe is that we spend so little on military things (wasting our money on hippy things like social benefits). The US spends more than the next 20 countries put together. Where is this military super power whilst these other armies are careering around the globe. I think it would be fair to say that the US is also a Northern country.

PS

On topic, I hope things work out for the Palestinians and Israelis on the peace process and that those that want peace actually get an opportunity to build something lasting.

I fear, however, that the sorting out of the West Bank will be a tad more problematical.

[MediaSlayer]

All true, but is way past time they got out of the occupied territories. They've no right to them. i wish they would give back all the land.

Once again I agree.

Further that the Europeans give the land back to the native Americans, Australians, Africans, New Zealanders and all of the rest they took it from.

In fact, let's everyone give the land back to it's indigenous population. At the same time removing all of the technology, investment and infrastructure we imposed on their way of life. It's the only reasonable way to go.

No wait, I've got a better one Jim.

How about we invent a time machine that works. Then we kill all the weak stragglers, the poor saps who weren't clever enough to conjure up such a scheme, leaving only a few hundred humans to put in the time machine. Then we travel back in time to the age of the cavemen and such. Over a period of 50 years or so, we teach them the why it's important to "own land". Because there were fewer inhabitants back then, it would actually be possible and practical to chop up the earth amongst ourselves and be forever committed to those parcels, which we "own". Every family gets a parcel, and if the family grows above 6 members, someone must die. else the parcel would get crowded and we are back to the present muddle.

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[Busyman]

I laugh at the writers interpretation of the phrophesies...

The only country that can be said to be a Political, Military and Economic giant is the USA, and yet they say its the EU... which isnt even a country.

Ergo:
The USA is the home of the Beast; the False Prophet, the Anti-Christ... my bet would still be that its GW Bush... except I'm not a Christian and dont believe in an Anti-Christ...

I just think he's an evil bastard

I, for one, was looking closely at the acceptance of the European Constitution. Too bad it didn't work out.....for now.

The acceptance would have given Europe, as a unit, more economic might than the US. From there, military and political might ain't far behind.

[Rat Faced]

Economically: The constitution only brought all the existing treaties together, no change.

Militarily: Most of the EU are in NATO, so no need really. Plus we already have the mechanics in the ARRC, so we could do it overnight if we wanted to

Politically: We're all far too diverse to agree on the colour of Milk, ranging from VERY Socialist to VERY Nationalist. Hell, you should see some of the stupid things proposed. Politically, the EU is the perfect vehicle to keep bloody stupid politicians busy, and ineffective... bit like Congress

[JPaul]

I laugh at the writers interpretation of the phrophesies...

The only country that can be said to be a Political, Military and Economic giant is the USA, and yet they say its the EU... which isnt even a country.

Ergo:
The USA is the home of the Beast; the False Prophet, the Anti-Christ... my bet would still be that its GW Bush... except I'm not a Christian and dont believe in an Anti-Christ...

I just think he's an evil bastard

I, for one, was looking closely at the acceptance of the European Constitution. Too bad it didn't work out.....for now.

The acceptance would have given Europe, as a unit, more economic might than the US. From there, military and political might ain't far behind.

What makes you think other people want the same sort of mentalist "military might" that the USA wants. It's a huge drain on your resources which could be spent on something like a welfare state.

As to "political might" what do you mean by that. The only thing I can think of is the ability to impose your own political views on other people (because internally "political might" makes little sense).

So what you are left with is a huge military machine, which enables you to impose your political views on other countries, whilst at the same time being unable to provide things like free medical cover for your own people ... oh right, sorry over to you.