Eminem Tour-Cancelled!

[neon]

hiphop was originaly started by the black and latino culture it was about something it was about a struggle, mainly started because the pooer class people couldnt afford a guitar or a drum set at the time.
source = http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/hiphop/krsone_talk.shtml
also . www.whiteboyscantrap.com - documentary

there is the True art of hiphop , because hiphop is about the message or lyrics for this matter and if you looked into the pure or true hiphop artists that still do it for the love not the money you can see it written throughout there music, crafted words of skill imagrey metaphors etc.

some elements of hiphop: (which most mainstream rappers wont even go near, i mean why do they need to? they just talk about the club , bitches etc, well most do)

punchlines
Art of Text
Rap Basics
Battling/Voting
Topicals
Aspects of Lyricism
Power Wording
Wordplay
The basics: Bars/Couplets
Advanced Multis
Countering/Multis

source = http://www.hiphop-directory.com/foru...&threadid=6561
^^ you will find MOST things here about hiphop elements. good read.

basic break down, now days the hiphop/rap cultre you see aka the "mainstream" is what Represents hiphop today to the original meaning of hiphop is lost withing the cultre of mainstream, Bussiness giants or your masters anr's etc choose what you make and write about, you see it's about
"numbers" MTV or VideoHits etc dont care about the cultre the art the skill anymore they care about $$$ money aka numbers, if 50cent can sell a million records then they want him, regardless of his skill in hiphop etc.
and most of 50cent's fans are white people 80+% (using 50cent as an example here)

i can go on and on but i dont see the need you should get the point by now if not pm me.



examples:

now if you could sign to a major record label anytime would you?:

"Not as an artist, why? because an artist is the bottom of the barrel
an artist is a slave an artist is a surf th lives on somebody else's land
and collects all his property and goes there, a record deal aint nothing
but a loan with a horrible interest rate, and it's worse then a loan
with a horrible interest rate because when you take out a loan to
buy a fucking house and pay the loan back you own the house
when i pay back the record deal you dont own ya masters you
dont own ya publishing you dont own nothing thats why when all the
niggas talk im a gangster im a murderer and you on a major
nah nigga you gettin pimped your a hoe so dont come to me
talking that extra cericular shit, because when i sell my albums
independently because we know were the money is going to the land i own
speaks for itself i dont invest in bullshit i buy land because thats what
i need to do, nothing feels better then telling somebody to get the fuck
off your land." - immortal technique
(written a bit short/cut to original source = http://www.funkinbeatz.net/intrvw/im...chniquept4.htm needs quicktime )


ii'll even suggest a PURE underground hiphop artist who still uses all this strongly throuh his art
www.soundclick.com/dzk
very nice underground artist.

ok post your ideas on this man if your still not understanding.

[Formula1]

The Source... ??? Give me a break... It's people like Benzino who hurt rap Trust me if it werent for an artist like eminem, rap wouldnt be just as popular as it is today...

[GepperRankins]

listening to the KRS lecture now.


do you even know what that DVD is about?


still don't understand how eminem is killing hiphop or rap

[neon]

eminem was into hiphop originaly for the art, he battled at scribble jam and he won,
battled some very good underground artists and won. he was good back in his day
he used to rhyme for the love or with the elements. but you see things like encore toady
and eminem has lost the love for hiphop, not caring about the elements, just look at songs like "just loose it rah rah rah rah rah" i mean seriously if he wasnt famous
he wouldnt even get looked at.
im not sure how to explain it further, try getting into underground hiphop and see how different it is with the meaning/lyricism.

[neon]

The Source... ??? Give me a break... It's people like Benzino who hurt rap Trust me if it werent for an artist like eminem, rap wouldnt be just as popular as it is today...

source as in the original content of my information.

[cpt_azad]

i dont think that Eminem is one of the greatest rappers, i think he would be in the top 500

That's where you're wrong bud. I consider him to be one of the best artists out there, not just rap but all genres. I don't like rap that much, in fact Eminem is the only rap music I listen to cuz he's just that good.

[natedogg]

i dont think that Eminem is one of the greatest rappers, i think he would be in the top 500

That's where you're wrong bud. I consider him to be one of the best artists out there, not just rap but all genres. I don't like rap that much, in fact Eminem is the only rap music I listen to cuz he's just that good.

hes not that great , there is other great hip hop artists then him

[cpt_azad]

I don't like rap for a lot of reasons, mainly because like 99% of em are always rapping about:

1) look at how much money i have
2) cadillacs
3) bentleys
4) other cars
5) chicks = sluts that like to just dance around me in music videos
6) money

eminem is on a higher lever than that, he doesn't care about those things and focuses on other issues and uses his talents to emphasize that. The last thing we need is more people preaching about being rich and driving their Mercedes.

[Formula1]

I don't like rap for a lot of reasons, mainly because like 99% of em are always rapping about:

1) look at how much money i have
2) cadillacs
3) bentleys
4) other cars
5) chicks = sluts that like to just dance around me in music videos
6) money

eminem is on a higher lever than that, he doesn't care about those things and focuses on other issues and uses his talents to emphasize that. The last thing we need is more people preaching about being rich and driving their Mercedes.

Yeah you are 100% right, the only other artist i can think of that can compare with Eminem is probably Kanye West.

[Formula1]

That's where you're wrong bud. I consider him to be one of the best artists out there, not just rap but all genres. I don't like rap that much, in fact Eminem is the only rap music I listen to cuz he's just that good.

hes not that great , there is other great hip hop artists then him