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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthInsinuate
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Freedom fighters fight for freedom
    isn't that tautology?
    No, but in my opinion, Busy's example is more oxymoronic than paradoxical
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    Quote Originally Posted by manker
    Quote Originally Posted by DarthInsinuate
    isn't that tautology?
    No, but in my opinion, Busy's example is more oxymoronic than paradoxical
    No, I understand his logic.. (for once)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa
    Quote Originally Posted by manker
    No, but in my opinion, Busy's example is more oxymoronic than paradoxical
    No, I understand his logic.. (for once)

    Fire fighters fight fire, but freedom fighters do not fight freedom..
    It's the snappyness of it.

    I added the imo disclaimer because it is a valid paradox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    "Nothing is infinite."

    How can nothing be infinite. If we know that there are things, then we know that there are places where nothing does not exist. Therefore there is a limit to nothingness, therefore nothing is not infinite.

    Nothing may be very big, but it is not infinite.
    I believe I ment a "physical existence" can't be "infinite". (Speech itself will always have it's paradox holes, untill it's completely gone one day. ) Only mental things are infinite, thus never 100% understood. Math is an example of "infinite".

    Things in the mind can be infinite, such as math, but what about physical items around us? We can't really prove if "Matter" and "Nothingness" will always be here. Same for math...it's concept is infinite, but the mere use of math may be forgotten someday. The day humans go extinct.

    The mind can prove "infinite" is possible. Only mental thinking, such as math, theories, etc. The world "infinite" constantly brings on many contradictories, but overall, it's technically impossible to see the "whole process" of an "infinite" item. You'd die trying.

    What would an "infinite" item look like? Any ideas?

    I'd believe "moving" or "modifying" it would prove impossible. No even destroying the whole earth would make it budge. Hm?
    It would be frozen in time, seen by everything, and constantly obstructing the same place... Who created it? You can't possibly "create" something that's infinite. Maybe if you could, it would instantly shoot back and forward in time covering every frame of all time and existence...leaving you the "creator", which is now known as "impossible", since it covers all pieces of time.

    Human knowledge, Godly knowledge, "One Who Created God" 's knowledge, "One Who Created One Who Created God" 's knowledge,
    "One Who Created One Who Created One Who Created God" 's knowledge , " " " " " " " " " " " " ", " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " "........(infinite)........ knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfy
    What would an "infinite" item look like? Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfmight
    What would an "infinite" item look like? Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfmight
    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    "Nothing is infinite."

    How can nothing be infinite. If we know that there are things, then we know that there are places where nothing does not exist. Therefore there is a limit to nothingness, therefore nothing is not infinite.

    Nothing may be very big, but it is not infinite.
    "infinite" is only a word.

    Things in the mind can be infinite, such as math, but what about physical items around us? We can't really prove if "Matter" and "Nothingness" will always be here. Same for math...it's concept is infinite, but the mere use of math may be forgotten someday. The day humans go extinct.

    The mind can prove "infinite" is possible. Only mental thinking, such as math, theories, etc. The world "infinite" constantly brings on many contradictories, but overall, it's technically impossible to see the "whole process" of an "infinite" item. You'd die trying.

    What would an "infinite" item look like? Any ideas?

    I'd believe "moving" or "modifying" it would prove impossible. No even destroying the whole earth would make it budge. Hm?
    It would be frozen in time, seen by everything, and constantly obstructing the same place... Who created it? You can't possibly "create" something that's infinite. Maybe if you could, it would instantly shoot back and forward in time covering every frame of all time and existence...leaving you the "creator", which is now known as "impossible", since it covers all pieces of time.
    Are you a wee bit mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfmight
    The mind can prove "infinite" is possible. Only mental thinking, such as math, theories, etc. The world "infinite" constantly brings on many contradictories, but overall, it's technically impossible to see the "whole process" of an "infinite" item. You'd die trying.

    Mental thinking, as opposed to...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manker
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfy
    What would an "infinite" item look like? Any ideas?
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    Hmmm

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