The Crime of "Unauthorized Reproduction"

[Busyman]

To be honest I don't understand American politics either but If had to vote between
j2k4 (Conservative ) Busyman (Republican ) or Everyrose (Democrat) I'd be lost !



Did I get that half right ?

Nope.

j2 is conservative and Republican (they go hand in hand plus conservative is not a party).

Evey is Democrat with Republican leanings.

I am in neither party.

I am

for welfare reform
anti-Iraq War
Pro-choice
against gay marriage (for my own selfish reasons)
for small government
for moment of silence in schools (if you don't want to pray, STFU and let others that do....pray)
against ID and creationism is science class
against the Patriot Act
pro-gun control reform but against banning them
against private use eminent domain
extremely tightening our borders
against the Medicare Advantage/Prescription Drug Benefit

and so on..........

[j2k4]

To be honest I don't understand American politics either but If had to vote between
j2k4 (Conservative ) Busyman (Republican ) or Everyrose (Democrat) I'd be lost !



Did I get that half right ?

No.

j2k4-Conservative

Ruthie/Scroff-Liberal

EVERYONE ELSE-Liberal, but pretending to be Independent, with a whatever's convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy, so that they are invulnerable to debate.

[JPaul]

I'm socialist, how does that fit into your groups.

[Busyman]

To be honest I don't understand American politics either but If had to vote between
j2k4 (Conservative ) Busyman (Republican ) or Everyrose (Democrat) I'd be lost !



Did I get that half right ?

No.

j2k4-Conservative

Ruthie/Scroff-Liberal

EVERYONE ELSE-Liberal, but pretending to be Independent, with a whatever's convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy, so that they are invulnerable to debate.

Most everyone else on here is liberal.
There are more cons to pick out of this liberal pot though:

B.Helto
spinningfreemanny
BigBank Hank (interesting that's the name of a member from rap group Sugarhill Gang)
TROUBLEMAKER
Voetsek
Skizo (a Texan)

My views are on the table and have been. I have debated at length many times alone and outnumbered in my viewpoint. Some viewpoints by conservatives are not even conservative viewpoints at all.

The Iraq War, for instance, is just about a conservative making a decision and many conservative following along like sheep. It was not a conservative ideal unless one considers that the rationale related some weird revenge for Bush Sr.....even then that's madness talk. Still pretty much the cons followed along and everyone else didn't.

My views are no where near a "convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy," Not by a long shot.

[j2k4]

I'm socialist, how does that fit into your groups.

I am not capable of catagorizing you, JP.

You are beyond that.

[j2k4]

No.

j2k4-Conservative

Ruthie/Scroff-Liberal

EVERYONE ELSE-Liberal, but pretending to be Independent, with a whatever's convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy, so that they are invulnerable to debate.

Most everyone else on here is liberal.
There are more cons to pick out of this liberal pot though:

B.Helto
spinningfreemanny
BigBank Hank (interesting that's the name of a member from rap group Sugarhill Gang)
TROUBLEMAKER
Voetsek
Skizo (a Texan)

Okay.

Perhaps you could summon them to the fray; they are not in evidence just now..

My views are on the table and have been. I have debated at length many times alone and outnumbered in my viewpoint. Some viewpoints by conservatives are not even conservative viewpoints at all.

One would assume "on the table"means that your views are somewhat maleable.

You are as rigid as anyone here.

That last makes no sense, at least as written.

The Iraq War, for instance, is just about a conservative making a decision and many conservative following along like sheep. It was not a conservative ideal unless one considers that the rationale related some weird revenge for Bush Sr.....even then that's madness talk. Still pretty much the cons followed along and everyone else didn't.

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

My views are no where near a "convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy," Not by a long shot.

Mr. Unpredictable...he's dark, mysterious, and unfathomable...an enigma.

Hmmm.

Here's an idea-

Start a new political party!

You have a ready-made constituency, looking for a home...

[Busyman]

Most everyone else on here is liberal.
There are more cons to pick out of this liberal pot though:

B.Helto
spinningfreemanny
BigBank Hank (interesting that's the name of a member from rap group Sugarhill Gang)
TROUBLEMAKER
Voetsek
Skizo (a Texan)

Okay.

Perhaps you could summon them to the fray; they are not in evidence just now..

You lost me.

My views are on the table and have been. I have debated at length many times alone and outnumbered in my viewpoint. Some viewpoints by conservatives are not even conservative viewpoints at all.

One would assume "on the table"means that your views are somewhat maleable.

You are as rigid as anyone here.

That last makes no sense, at least as written.

Bad choice of words on my part. My views are out in the open. If they are rigid where do you get "convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy"? I have nevvvver stayed on the fence.

The Iraq War, for instance, is just about a conservative making a decision and many conservative following along like sheep. It was not a conservative ideal unless one considers that the rationale related some weird revenge for Bush Sr.....even then that's madness talk. Still pretty much the cons followed along and everyone else didn't.

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

No. If you believe that then the same crap is bound to be repeated 'cause we felt like it. Furthermore, I'd like to hear cons stop the bullshit "we were there to fight for democracy" crap. Say Bush fucked up and that we simply can't leave. Be humble. You'd have more respect that way. Otherwise you are bullshitting liars.

My views are no where near a "convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy," Not by a long shot.

Mr. Unpredictable...he's dark, mysterious, and unfathomable...an enigma.

Hmmm.

Here's an idea-

Start a new political party!

You have a ready-made constituency, looking for a home...

That's the thing. I ain't unpredictable. My views are out there and you are so used to pigeon-holing yourself and others that it's like some new train of thought you can't grasp.

[clocker]

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

Presumably that day will coincide with the Second Coming.
At which time I will convert and approve of Intelligent Design.

[Busyman]

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

Presumably that day will coincide with the Second Coming.
At which time I will convert and approve of Intelligent Design.

....even then, it shouldn't be in science class.

[j2k4]

Mr. Unpredictable...

That's the thing. I ain't unpredictable. My views are out there and you are so used to pigeon-holing yourself and others that it's like some new train of thought you can't grasp.

You're not unpredictable?

Oh.

Well then check that "new train of thought" spiel, 'cuz with trains, the cars (ideas?) are supposed to be connected.

Apart from that, the rest was not written exclusively for you, and I didn't mean for you to infer I'd paint you a fence-sitter.

I'll assume that mistake, because I've never known you to mis-perceive anything.