Veal and the like.

[Gripper]

Horses have a gleam of intelligence in their eyes,whereas most food animals are stupid,they live to feed us,simple really.

[JPaul]

Horses have a gleam of intelligence in their eyes,whereas most food animals are stupid,they live to feed us,simple really.

So, do you think we should do whatever we want to them, purely as a matter of taste, as opposed to nutrition.

[Gripper]

No I'm against what they do to calves to make Veal,food animals should be treated well,up to the point where they are executed,that should be done in the most humane way possible with as little stress and suffering caused to the animal as possible.

[JPaul]

No I'm against what they do to calves to make Veal,food animals should be treated well,up to the point where they are executed,that should be done in the most humane way possible with as little stress and suffering caused to the animal as possible.

I agree.

The idea of treating an animal in such a manner, simply because it will get you more tender meat is barbaric.

[Barbarossa]

It's illegal in the UK isn't it?

[Carcinus]

It's illegal in the UK isn't it?

In the UK the use of veal crates was banned in the 90s due to pressure from animal rights group. Farmers were still able to export calfs to Europe for the veal industry. This was banned in 1996, not because of the cruelty issue, but because of BSE. The export ban has just been lifted after 10 years. The ban cost the farming industry nearly 700 million pounds.

Veal exports were the subject of heavy animal rights protests both because of the appauling travel conditions suffered by the animals, the fate they would eventually suffer and because British farmers were using a loophole in the law to continue to support a cruel but lucritive industry.

The protests were so disruptive to port operations that even the port authorities supported the ban of veal exports to help prevent the chaos that ensued whenever a veal truck tried to pass through. The death of a protester, crushed under the wheels of a veal truck, in 1995 supported this.
Protests are expected to resume as exports are re-commenced.

All in the name of tender white meat. If that's what you're looking for, why not eat chicken instead of beef.

[Tempestv]

white beef= not right

besides the fact that the animal is pretty much tortured, do you want a cut of beef that is loaded with even more chemicals that corperate beef already is? My family raises our own beef simply because it is better beef with less chemicals.

[JPaul]

white beef= not right

besides the fact that the animal is pretty much tortured, do you want a cut of beef that is loaded with even more chemicals that corperate beef already is? My family raises our own beef simply because it is better beef with less chemicals.

Do you have a farm / smallholding. I'm interested to find out what people within the farming industry think of veal production.

[Mr. Mulder]

never had Veal but from what ive seen from that south park ep about it, Michael Dorn rawks ( ) and also it was pretty ghey what they did to those small cows

[Tempestv]

white beef= not right

besides the fact that the animal is pretty much tortured, do you want a cut of beef that is loaded with even more chemicals that corperate beef already is? My family raises our own beef simply because it is better beef with less chemicals.

Do you have a farm / smallholding. I'm interested to find out what people within the farming industry think of veal production.

my parents have twenty acres and about 6 cows that calve every year. we usually keep the steers about two years, then butcher one steer, which we sell 3/4 of and keep a quarter beef. the other steers get sold at auction where they would generally end up in stock yards in nebraska to get fattened more on growth hormones and corn before being slaughtered. I am not really "in" the the farming industry- we just started raising cows because we wanted one a year to butcher, but over time by keeping the heifers we have kinda built up a herd, so we might as well sell the extra steers. my college tuition this semester is being payed by selling a couple steers. all I can tell you about veal is that when I think of a nice steak, the color white doesn't come to mind.