This is a conversation between 2 mods at theplace.bz and a user:
[11:14] <MP5> How do the donators in theplace get their money back??
[11:15] <@RenesisAFK> MP5: You want to quit? We can refund you if you want to quit and lose your account on tp.bz.
[11:15] <MP5> I just know some1 who got kicked from the place
[11:15] <MP5> and he donated
[11:16] <@RenesisAFK> MP5: OK, can he get on IRC and talk to us?
[11:16] <MP5> ok
[11:16] <@RenesisAFK> MP5: If he deletes his sedgr.com account then he is welcome back.
[11:16] <@RenesisAFK> We're decent guys.
[11:16] <Jait> trying to trick us though.. will result in a permanant ban
[11:17] <MP5> hmmm....how does one do that?? I mean when the account gets deleted over there, is there like a confirmation id or something??
[11:17] <Jait> the accounts neever get deleted
[11:17] <Jait> they just get disabled
[11:17] <Jait> so all the records stay in the db (he was talking about tp.bz accounts. and yes, YOUR PASSWORDS TOO stays in the db!)
[11:17] <Jait> so we dont invite ppl that we banned
[11:18] <Netghost> i think he means accounts deleted "there"
[11:18] <MP5> ok...so what proof needs to be presented
11:18] <Jait> proof?
[11:18] <Jait> for what?
[11:18] <MP5> that the accounts deleted there
[11:18] <Jait> aa dont worry
[11:18] <@RenesisAFK> We can organise that.
[11:18] <Jait> we 'll find out
[11:18] <@RenesisAFK> Don't worry about it.
[11:18] <MP5> alright
[11:18] <@RenesisAFK> We're the all-seeing eye.
[11:18] <Jait> we ll also find out if sm makes a new one
[11:18] <@RenesisAFK> Like the pyramid on the back of a $1 bill.
[11:19] <Jait> and have already
[11:19] <@RenesisAFK> Yeah, several times today people have tried to trick us.
[11:19] <@RenesisAFK> They've tried very hard.
[11:19] <Jait> mps
[11:19] <Jait> u dont really belong here
[11:19] <Jait> y r u here?
[11:20] <MP5> Im the guy who got kicked coz Im a dual member
[11:22] <Jait> nick on our site : jbristow
[11:22] <@RenesisAFK> MP5: Your shitty Borg avatar.
[11:22] <Jait> u can check him out
[11:22] <@RenesisAFK> jbristow. Password "seducer"
[11:23] <MP5> Hmmmm tnx for the info...
[11:23] <@RenesisAFK> MP5: You're a fucking retard my friend.
[11:23] <MP5> thats all I needed to know
[11:23] <Netghost> ren: was that really necessary? password?
[11:23] <Jait> ren i think that is enough
We have all the proof here.
As you can see they store the passwords unencrypted in the database, and might use it on other sites (probably already did, but kept low so you don't notice) like BitME, Emporium.
That means that your passwords are stored as plain text in their database! They've been accusing sgr.com of doing such (without any proof), while it was really just a scheme to get the light off them. (as a reminder, password stored in SeductionGR.COM database are ecrypted and NOONE - not even the SysOP - can see them!)
whatever they might respond to this will be a set of lies, so don't be fooled by some kids (it's totally obvious that Renesis is a 17 year old kid who doesn't have much of a life). I'm amazed at how manly people got fooled by a bunch of kids who somehow got to be moderators at theplace, and probably will always be under the impression that they're trustworthy.
For the recored: Theplace guys have done some 'dirty work' and made users think it was sgr.com that did that. (eg: flooding some BitME channels, using member's passwords etc). We have cleared things up with BitME and they have evidence to support that theplace guys are responsible of those things.
I'm sure that you'll be wiser than some and not trust whatever roomer they might propagate. Think for yourselves guys, don't let some virtual characters (kids with internet connections) restrict your options of being a member elsewhere! it's just further proof of their childish scarcity mentality! who would wanna be a member of a site that restricts them from accessing whatever other site they want.
the world is yours and you're free to do whatever you wish, don't let anyone make restrictions in it!!!
You should also know that they've been killing people off that didnt agree to them. Whether those members wanted to practice free choice in joining whatever tracker they wished, they got instant ban. Anyone that has studied history knows that's exactly what the facist/communist systems did. Those who did not agree with them were be oppressed and killed. (in this case banned - even members that donated to the site got banned!). Beware of this behavoiur and don't let yourself be rulled by some facist minded kids! The lack of maturity and their methods are a sure sign of weakness and insecurity.
Sgr.com always approached them with a friendly attitude and a desire to cooperate because both have the same poropuse: helping its members become the best they can be and get all the women they want. It is a community dedicated to help its members evolve! For some reason (i'm going to let you judge this for yourself) theplace.bz mods took sgr.com as a threat and even an ennemy and kept spreading false and crazy roomers about it, and the pitiful thing is that the ignorance of some members from theplace lead them to actually trust the mods and 'eat up' the false roomers they kept spreading!!! I trust you will think for yourself and will never buy into anyone's roomers!
My suggestion to everyone is that they use a different pass on every site they register an account. It's hard to find people that are trust-worthy, and theplace kids are definetly NOT!