"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
I didn't quote th 1000 other words that came before or after that either... they were irrelevant.
now (remembering Bush's straw man addiction) show where Kerry said "we should haul them into court".... Kerry was not saying "serve them legal papers. He said the most effective way to catch them is intelligence-gathering law enforcement operations and not military operations. So if you want to talk about contex.........
you have to locate the terrorist to catch the terrorists....
which has been the most effective in preventing actual attacks?
a) intelligence-gathering law enforcement operations.
b) invading Iraq.
Has military action stopped the attacks?
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
the definition of terrorist is someone who attacks civilians for political gain isn't it. nothing more, nothing less.
would the UN ever talk about terrorism? i'd guess everybody would want everyone else to be diplomatic. but thier own enemies would be special cases that need more of a heavy handed talking to.
You are being evasive.
The point is, you cannot deter terrorism by threat of a court-action, which tactic Kerry was touting on the occasion of his original comment.
No one disputes intelligence as a prime, perhaps the prime tool to fight terrorism; this, though, as differentiated from law-enforcement, which has very little to recommend it as a mechanism for fighting terrorism.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
How am i being evasive?, i would suggest you are trying to misrepresent the point.
Where did i say or did kerry say Law enforcement was a deterrent to terrorists? I believe my word is "prevent"
Kerry said intelligence operations are the most effective method and law enforcement agencies are the most effective at carrying this out..... The evedence so far suggest he is correct.
Bush seemed to dispute.
Has militarily invading a country that didn't attack us detered any attacks?
Has it prevented any attacks?.
Is it possible it cause a few?
As toI suggest you read you own post here"law-enforcement, which has very little to recommend it as a mechanism for fighting terrorism."
Last edited by vidcc; 08-10-2006 at 09:35 PM.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
I think you'd best do some further digging.
Kerry's original commentary was along the lines of, 'We have laws with which to address terrorism', as in, cops-n-courts; 'we have merely to make terrorism unlawful, and the problem is solved'.
My post is a paean to "intelligence agencies", as is plainly discernable.
I have taken pains to indicate the difference, and I feel this is plain to anyone who reads the thread.
I cannot account for your lack of cogitation.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
I'm sorry but you are just posting the "spinned version". You can disagree with what someone said, but if you are going to do so you should use what he said...not what someone else said he said.
Just who and what do you think those "intelligence agencies" are?
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
So, in other words, Kerry says something, Bush says something in response, and only you are capable of sussing what they truly meant?
I see.
See, the thing is, I remember Kerry's comment; he made it relative to the '93 WTC bombing, and he wasn't talking about the CIA, y'know?
Now, if you don't know the difference between, say, the NYPD, and the CIA...
Also, since the FBI and Scotland Yard, or MI5, or whoever, while not sharing jurisdiction, cooperate on an international basis by way of intelligence/information sharing, with external (ex. CIA) involvement...really-it should be clear even to you.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
Ok live in your world of spin, I'll stick to reality.
law enforcement agencies are obviously just the local sherrif.
Last edited by vidcc; 08-11-2006 at 01:22 AM.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
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