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    Can't wait to see how this one plays out.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6019192

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    Booooring.

    Now let's start an entire investigation based on another player's say so.

    History is what happened and not what you feel is valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Booooring.

    Now let's start an entire investigation based on another player's say so.

    History is what happened and not what you feel is valid.
    Ditto.

    This topic has become a witch-hunt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Booooring.

    Now let's start an entire investigation based on another player's say so.

    History is what happened and not what you feel is valid.
    Ditto.

    This topic has become a witch-hunt.
    Eggzacklee. Have a positive test or STFU, I say.

    I wouldn't be surprised if someone spiked one of these scrutinized players drinks or food to get them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    This topic has become a witch-hunt.
    Nonetheless, it would be good to get to the bottom of the BALCO case; it seems the evidence (such as it is) regarding Bonds-and now possibly others, including Clemens and Andy Pettite-is contained therein.

    Why would this clown friend of Bonds' go to jail for him?

    The point being, if there is a positive test, and that fact is being kept under wraps out of some power-play or mis-placed concern over reputations or privacy, why even bother with testing?

    Who really gives a fuck what some multi-million dollar "athlete" injects himself with, apart from the unwanted but very real role-modelling that influences youngsters?

    Or don't we care about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    This topic has become a witch-hunt.
    Nonetheless, it would be good to get to the bottom of the BALCO case; it seems the evidence (such as it is) regarding Bonds-and now possibly others, including Clemens and Andy Pettite-is contained therein.

    Why would this clown friend of Bonds' go to jail for him?

    The point being, if there is a positive test, and that fact is being kept under wraps out of some power-play or mis-placed concern over reputations or privacy, why even bother with testing?

    Who really gives a fuck what some multi-million dollar "athlete" injects himself with, apart from the unwanted but very real role-modelling that influences youngsters?

    Or don't we care about that?
    Sure but at this point it has shit all to do with the game. Why?

    No positive test. That's the rules.

    What you feel about the moralcharactersanctityofthewhatsanever has shit to do with it.

    At the very least, test 'em positive or STFU. Saying "I saw him inject horsebullpower into his bicep" doesn't cut it.

    It's funny how Congress is even involved in a sports league anyway. Does the antitrust exemption give them the right?

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    It only stands to reason Major League Baseball wants to keep the lid on this stuff because of the fallout from a transparent policy; of course, the players will give their tacit approval-they're still the draw.

    If congress weighs in again, there might be hell to pay for MLB.

    That I'd pay to see; kinda like a big business CEO on trial...there really isn't any difference, to my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    It only stands to reason Major League Baseball wants to keep the lid on this stuff because of the fallout from a transparent policy; of course, the players will give their tacit approval-they're still the draw.

    If congress weighs in again, there might be hell to pay for MLB.

    That I'd pay to see; kinda like a big business CEO on trial...there really isn't any difference, to my mind.
    I must agree with you there. The MLB knew the shit was going on back when Mark McGwire was hitting HRs and had the most lax drug testing policy of all American sports.

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    The latest:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6024278

    Seemingly a caution from the prosecutor as to circumstance, but MLB may have weighed in; if the information remains undisclosed, none of the parties with anything to lose are at risk.

    A bit of a "fail-safe", I suspect, as there is no real news-worthiness to the article-and that is interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Yeah I saw that yesterday. It's basically a bubblefuck.

    It basically says not a damn thing.

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