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    Hubbard hasn't written anything that deserves to be called a classic. Battlefield Earth is just as bad as the movie was campy. I honestly cannot stand his writing. If I was forced to read either a book by him, and a book by Robert Jordan, I'd pick Jordan. But unless you know me personally, I guess that's not saying much. I'd have to disagree with your assessment of his Scientology books (I think it includes Dianetics as well?), QuietSilence! It's not really psychology at all.

    The 10th book is horribly boring. I swear you're over 600 pages in before anything actually happens.

    I don't understand how reading horrible books is fun. Unless it's so horrible that it subscribes to the train-wreck theory. I must admit I've read a few books based on that. But there's been far more that I've just scoffed and tossed it aside.

    things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
    so, he does
    the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
    and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
    the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
    and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
    the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
    -- WW2 for the l33t

  2. Lounge   -   #12
    i agree in Mission earth series but battlefield earth was not part of that series it was a book untoo its self

    LOL i cant beleve u acualy got as far as #10 in mission earth i quit after 3

    it kinda obvious ur not a SiFi fan or at least hardcore sifi this book is defanatly in the the top 10 best Hardcore SiFis of all time

    and i miss stated about the sintology book i ment Dianetics didnt know there was one called Scientology thought that was the name of Dianetics and that the cult was called Scientologests

    the Dianetics book is a great way to learn how u think and get rid of some of the programing we all grew up with

    but the Scientologests just took it too far it was not ment to be the bible of a cult and it took psychology to the next step

    u realy should read it but not for pleasher for knowlage it a text not a noval

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    Not at all. I enjoy sci-fi quite a bit. I just cannot stand Hubbard. He receives my ire. Very few authours do. Robert Jordan is another one, and Laurell K. Hamilton is starting to get it too. For the love of all things holy woman, if you're write your books as plotless, pointless, purple-prose, stop marketing them as a supernatural mystery story!

    He's written numerous books on his Scientology bullshit. I read through Dianetics and whatever Scientology named one was advertised with it on the Space station, but, as I said before, it's bullshit.

    Some of them include:

    The Emotional Tone Scale
    Clear Body, Clear Mind: The Effective Purification Program
    Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health
    What Is Scientology?
    Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought
    Scientology: A New Slant on Life
    Child Dianetics
    How to Resolve Conflicts
    Learning How to Learn
    Self Analysis
    Have You Lived Before This Life
    The problems of work : scientology applied to the work-a-day world
    Dianetics: The Evolution of a Science
    Dianetics 55

    And so on. There's 214 results for him off Amazon. I read them years ago, I think the year they were published, or the year after, so I can't quote it, alas.

    This is the Science Fiction Book Club's top 10 list of "The Most Significant SF & Fantasy Books of the Last 50 Years, 1953-2002"

    1 The Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien
    2 The Foundation Trilogy, Isaac Asimov
    3 Dune, Frank Herbert
    4 Stranger in a Strange Land, Robert A. Heinlein
    5 A Wizard of Earthsea, Ursula K. Le Guin
    6 Neuromancer, William Gibson
    7 Childhood's End, Arthur C. Clarke
    8 Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Philip K. Dick
    9 The Mists of Avalon, Marion Zimmer Bradley
    10 Fahrenheit 451, Ray Bradbury

    with the remaining 40 as follows:

    The Book of the New Sun, Gene Wolfe
    A Canticle for Leibowitz, Walter M. Miller, Jr.
    The Caves of Steel, Isaac Asimov
    Children of the Atom, Wilmar Shiras
    Cities in Flight, James Blish
    The Colour of Magic, Terry Pratchett
    Dangerous Visions, edited by Harlan Ellison
    Deathbird Stories, Harlan Ellison
    The Demolished Man, Alfred Bester
    Dhalgren, Samuel R. Delany
    Dragonflight, Anne McCaffrey
    Ender's Game, Orson Scott Card
    The First Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, Stephen R. Donaldson
    The Forever War, Joe Haldeman
    Gateway, Frederik Pohl
    Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, J.K. Rowling
    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams
    I Am Legend, Richard Matheson
    Interview with the Vampire, Anne Rice
    The Left Hand of Darkness, Ursula K. Le Guin
    Little, Big, John Crowley
    Lord of Light, Roger Zelazny
    The Man in the High Castle, Philip K. Dick
    Mission of Gravity, Hal Clement
    More Than Human, Theodore Sturgeon
    The Rediscovery of Man, Cordwainer Smith
    On the Beach, Nevil Shute
    Rendezvous with Rama, Arthur C. Clarke
    Ringworld, Larry Niven
    Rogue Moon, Algis Budrys
    The Silmarillion, J.R.R. Tolkien
    Slaughterhouse-5, Kurt Vonnegut
    Snow Crash, Neal Stephenson
    Stand on Zanzibar, John Brunner
    The Stars My Destination, Alfred Bester
    Starship Troopers, Robert A. Heinlein
    Stormbringer, Michael Moorcock
    The Sword of Shannara, Terry Brooks
    Timescape, Gregory Benford
    To Your Scattered Bodies Go, Philip Jose Farmer


    I like lists.



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    things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
    so, he does
    the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
    and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
    the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
    and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
    the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
    -- WW2 for the l33t

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    Interview with the Vampire, Anne Rice ?

    isnt this horror? i know some peps think horror is a sub section of sifi but i dont
    just cant stand horror

    lot of fantacy in there too but thats more understandable

    and no lacky!!!!
    no wiss and hickmen!!!!
    no McCaffrey!!!! ... oh theres 1 from the mid of a series
    no Eddings!!!!
    no Salvatore!!!!!
    these are some of the best fantacy wrighters of all time!

    thats got to be there top seller list just for this month or somthing but it is an exelent list of good books

    also i was talkin about hardcore sifi only

    things like:

    battfeild earth - hubbard
    the lens men series - smith
    two faces of tomarow - Hogan
    robot series - asimov
    RoboTech - McKinney (hard core but not too good)
    Mutineers' Moon - Weber
    Sector General series - white

    do u like any of these type books? lots of detail of tech in the books based on true scince thou beond what we know how to do

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    The horror genre is actually a subgenre of fantasy. And nope, this is the Sci-Fi Book Club's Most Significant SF & Fantasy Books of the Last 50 Years, 1953-2002.

    Never said you have to agree with it. I don't agree with it in its entirety either.


    As for your question, I'll have to come back to it another day when I'm able to think. Being fuzzy-minded isn't a favourite thing of mine, and unfortunately, it's what I am right now.

    things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
    so, he does
    the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
    and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
    the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
    and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
    the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
    -- WW2 for the l33t

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