"Kramer" Is A Fucking Bitch

[Zequabie]

What's the big deal. It's america ain't it, freedom of speech. I don't think he should have even apologized for it. If that's how he sees things fine, a person can believe what they wan't to believe "in america" right.

[namzuf9]

maybe because 50 years ago they didn't used to string fat people up just for the craic

Thank you.

Racism vs. old fashioned name-calling

I guess it's out-of-bounds to make fun of someone's style of dress too.

Nigger is just a name. Oh no it's racism! Lard arse is just a name. Oh no It's fatism!
By using the term "old fashioned name-calling" I'm assuming you believe that the insulting of fat people pre-dates the insults recieved by black people?

[Busyman™]

maybe because 50 years ago they didn't used to string fat people up just for the craic

So a person can only feel insulted if a previous generation has physically suffered as a result of what the insult entails?

A person can feel insulted for any name-calling.

I'll put it in perspective.

Situation 1:

Me and a white co-worker get into an argument. He calls me a motherfucker.

Situation 2:

Me and a white co-worker get into an argument. He calls me a nigger.

In Situation 1 we can comeback to being "cool" again. In Situation 2, there is no comeback.

[namzuf9]

Would you like to explain to me why the insult of "lard arse" is funnier than the insult of "nigger"?

The same reason why fat jokes can be funny while racism isn't.
The same reason someone can call somone else on here a lard arse and it's no big deal but calling someone a nigger would be.

I mean really if you wanna open up the sensitivity bridges we couldn't have name calling at all.

For instance, I've been called a fat ass on here but I didn't go into an uproar over it.
People are just jealous of my luxurious body and resort to name-calling.

There's is a fella at work that tried to put it in perspective by saying that if you are black and call your friends "niggas" that you are a hypocrite for getting mad at Cosmo.

I wouldn't really call him an idiot but just a little clueless.

Whoever doesn't realize that offense can change depending on who is saying the words then they need to get off their soapbox and delve into their own noggin a bit.

It's quite easy.

Sorry I got a post behind somehow. Let me answer to you here.

To me fat jokes are funny as are racist jokes.
Why is a big deal to call someone a nigger on here?
Why not open up the sensitivity bridges and save the feelings of the lard arse as well as the nigger?
You've been called a fat ass and not got upset by it, would you be upset if you got called a nigger or would it depend on the context? (I'm assuming you are a black man from previous experience on the board as well as this thread)

A person can feel insulted for any name-calling.

I'll put it in perspective.

Situation 1:

Me and a white co-worker get into an argument. He calls me a motherfucker.

Situation 2:

Me and a white co-worker get into an argument. He calls me a nigger.

In Situation 1 we can comeback to being "cool" again. In Situation 2, there is no comeback.

In situation 2 why is there no comeback it's just an insult all the same? Explain to me why nigger is worse than motherfucker.

[Busyman™]

Thank you.

Racism vs. old fashioned name-calling

I guess it's out-of-bounds to make fun of someone's style of dress too.

Nigger is just a name. Oh no it's racism! Lard arse is just a name. Oh no It's fatism!
By using the term "old fashioned name-calling" I'm assuming you believe that the insulting of fat people pre-dates the insults recieved by black people?

Again, then all name-calling is out of the question. I could remove "lard ass" and insert "hairy motherfucker" and you'd think it's the same as "nigger".

If you believe that all name-calling is the same then you don't have a gist of what the real world is like.

You are logically thinking....in a bubble.

"That's name-calling and that's name-calling....voila."

[namzuf9]

Nigger is just a name. Oh no it's racism! Lard arse is just a name. Oh no It's fatism!
By using the term "old fashioned name-calling" I'm assuming you believe that the insulting of fat people pre-dates the insults recieved by black people?

Again, then all name-calling is out of the question. I could remove "lard ass" and insert "hairy motherfucker" and you'd think it's the same as "nigger".

If you believe that all name-calling is the same then you don't have a gist of what the real world is like.

You are logically thinking....in a bubble.

"That's name-calling and that's name-calling....voila."

So because a person is black an insult hits harder than if he was fat or hairy?
Or are you saying black people suffer more than fat people (any race does'nt matter could be turkish)

[Busyman™]

Hey which is worse..

Calling someone a lard ass or joking about Jews in gas chambers?

[tesco]

What's worse: calling someone a nigger or joking about black people being used for slave labour

[namzuf9]

What's worse: calling someone a nigger or joking about black people being used for slave labour

Exactly! Its all about the context in which a word is used.

[Busyman™]

What's worse: calling someone a nigger or joking about black people being used for slave labour

Exactly! Its all about the context in which a word is used.

Excellent!

It took you long enough. It also matters who's saying it.