Yes yet another Matrix reloaded topic. The APM sample blew me away but I couldn't get the centropy sample to play in virtual dub, avi preview, windows media player and didn't want to fuck around and crash my comp trying to view it in real player. So all in all if you've seen both which is the better release? I've seen the convo on vcdquality schmiggy alluded to of both being taken from the same source and am wondering which is better still. The posters over there have me thinking the Centropy is the better deal but i'm getting the apm at 87kbs off irc for the whole smaller 1.20 gigs. I'll probably role with it until a screener but I'd like your opinions.