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    Quote Originally Posted by aburyach View Post
    Does anyone know how much TL makes? They have like 90,000 (or more?) users and a bunch (maybe ~10,000?) so-called "VIP's".
    i don't know the exact figures but i'll tell you this - they make a LOT! so many that before, PayPal suspended their account because too much money was going in! before they "upgraded" their PayPal account, remember that before, they only took a certain number of "donations" because of this.


  2. BitTorrent   -   #32
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    I used to be against the pay2leech conept till few days ago but after chatting with a mod at a pvt tracker I have changed my opinion atleast against few pvt trackers like TL etc . They really have a lot of money to be paid for abndwidth etc and so they need this money..

    Also the posts above of Wild and Melvin confirms the same facts..

    btw was not aware of PI making so much money. Also as ppl said above that PI uploades etc don't have seed boxes then how come we get good download speeds from there..


    Some users might have seeding boxes and i am sure alot of the uploaders have seeding boxes, but i am sure 90% or more dont have scene access...

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    Correct some do have seedboxes. But from when I was a uploader there a few years ago it wasnt all that many. And even less than that have scene access. When I uploaded there I had axx and alot would msg me asking where I was getting the releases so fast. Im quite certain 90% if not more of the people who upload scene releases there are simply grabbing them off other sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aburyach View Post
    Does anyone know how much TL makes? They have like 90,000 (or more?) users and a bunch (maybe ~10,000?) so-called "VIP's".
    i don't know the exact figures but i'll tell you this - they make a LOT! so many that before, PayPal suspended their account because too much money was going in! before they "upgraded" their PayPal account, remember that before, they only took a certain number of "donations" because of this.

    Nowhere did it say they had it suspended for that, that I recall.
    Most times you see sites get their paypal accounts revoked. Its due to homos reporting the sites for receiving donations for illegal files (Mostly XXX files arent liked by pp).
    I know a friend from a site who had his account revoked due to someone adding a comment in the donation saying thanks for the porn.
    I have another friend who has had his pp account suspended for selling collectors edition GI Joes. When he asks them why his account is canceled they tell him for selling explicit/offending materials. Its GI Joes for christs sake, whats offending about those? They let people sell Dildos, porn dvds, and even inflatable stripper poles and people arent offended by those?

    Paypal just gets a little rediculious with what they suspend accounts for.

    this sort of thing dont bother me until the site starts splattering vip crap all over the place, like 2 pms a day, it gets annoying. BS was one of those sites, but im no longer a member there, I just let it go, got too annoying.
    Exactly. I dislike sites that send you msgs everday asking for money. Or even sites that add big flashy banners saying to donate throughout their pages.
    Sites that occasionally ask in the News items Due to money issues maybe like every 3 - 4 months or so... yeah thats fine and very acceptable. If they are having issues coming up with the $$$ for the servers by all means mention it but they shouldnt be having issues every 2 weeks. I would rather see a site ask when donations are needed and stay open... then see a site that needed donations not ask and just decide to close its doors for good.
    Last edited by Melvinmeow; 02-27-2007 at 03:05 PM.

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    I dont mind sites which accepts donations from their members, coz it must cost a hell to run a tracker. but seriously i hate those sites which offer an account if you donate. like gfxnews.ru , bwtorrents.com and many others
    and those sites which displays ads even while accepting donations like TL
    Dang !!

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    ^^ lol, yeah... i forgot TL has ads now, too! thank God Firefox blocks it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aburyach View Post
    Does anyone know how much TL makes? They have like 90,000 (or more?) users and a bunch (maybe ~10,000?) so-called "VIP's".
    I heard a year ago, that they receive 1,000 vip payments (eur 25 each) per month minimum

    If you add ads, lottery etc they easily can reach an amount of eur 35,000 - 40,000 per month on average

    But I am really wondering about their userbase, before I read your message I thought that members have gone over 150,000. I mean there are doing some wipe out frequently but they hand over so many invites.

    Now to the topic, I don't like pay2leech, I prefer sites like oink, publishing their monthly expenses at the home page and the amount collected.

    Just imagine what would happen if oink would offer pay2leech ...

    They are saying that oink admins are rude, dictators etc but I really appreciate the fact that they don't offer pay2leech. They could make really good money out of it, but they refuse it and that's why they will last for much longer (hopefully).

    I know that there are other trackers in line with oink's policy, but almost all others have scene content, meaning that their content can be found elsewhere after a day or so. Oink's content is really unique and cannot be found anywhere else, as far as I know.

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    The other problem I have with pay2leech is that it's a big step towards commercializing a tracker. There must be a tipping point where it becomes a fullblown, illegal movie and TV subscription service. Authorities would have a clearer motive to shut you down. But of course, copyright infringement is illegal anyway...

  7. BitTorrent   -   #37
    I've leeched all those sites and never paid a dime.

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    no offence folks but if i owned a torrenmt site i wouldnt make up these $40000 numbers etc. i would keep it hush hush and not even let staff know which is what really goes on.

    thats just some dumb ass user that has too much time on their hands and created these numbers

    but other than that i have got VIP freeleech accounts on some sites and i thinbk its woirthwhile (a) if the content is as fast as it is and (b) the speeds and site cointinues to grow. Giving thyem donations is just the same as paying to leech though. for some sites u have no option as sites such as bitmetv and scc are just a bitch to upload in and even with a seedbox/server u cant upload unless u r glued to the releases and grab as soonb as they hit the site. if ur 10 mins late then kiss bye to the ratio as there aint gonna be a buffer!

    even glued to the pc is like 6 hours of work so why not just pay the site for a buffer - imk sure 90% of the recent users on bitmetv have doinated when they first joined. i have alkso done that on scc as it has kickass pretimes for tv and merely helping the site will imporve the content eventually

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