Screw You Fake File Poser Dickheads!

[Colt Seevers]

Originally posted by angellynn26+1 June 2003 - 18:23--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angellynn26 @ 1 June 2003 - 18:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--JaVnI@1 June 2003 - 17:18
Well I must tell you that i know that some people rename for fun. Most fake files are accidental. However there is one other group of fakes. The people who make movies and are in that business. Also for software, Microsoft. They buy a computer and fill it with fakes and put them on the p2p network. This is obviously to get people frustrated and then think is it worth using kazaa if all you get is fakes?
All I can say is that people should stop complaining and also to help we should consider opening a fake section in movieworld. This would be like a verifieds but its Fake Verifieds. People could post the files for new movies that they have found were fake i.e. the file name, title, length and size. I think its a good idea i hope the board managers see this...
I think everyone would agree it could save time. Especially for the poor 56kers

excellent, excellent idea&#33;&#33;&#33; That&#39;s the best idea I&#39;ve heard yet to handle fakes and I think it would truly help&#33; I hope the right people get to read your post.


Just to settle this &#39;stop complaining&#39; business, I don&#39;t see why people have such a big problem with others complaining about fakes.... it IS a pain (especially w/ a 56K), and if you don&#39;t know what you&#39;re doing and dl a bunch of fakes, sometimes wasting DAYS of your time, you are BOUND to be upset&#33; To everyone who says "STOP COMPLAINING", why don&#39;t you just stop telling people to stop complaining? Everyone who has to deal with the enormous magnitude of fakes on Kazaa have every right to be upset and to complain. So, I tell all of you....if people&#39;s complaints are bothering you on the forum....IGNORE them, don&#39;t go into those topics, and why bother telling people to stop complaining? ONCE AND FOR ALL, STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT PEOPLE COMPLAINING&#33; I choose to tell you &#39;stop complaining&#39; people to "STOP COMPLAINING", we&#39;re tired of hearing you complain about people complaining&#33; Believe me, THAT is getting just as old as the complaints themselves. [/b][/quote]
lol....hey could you please stop complaining...about people who complain... err about people who are posting to complain about people who share fakes&#33;&#33;&#33; GOD DAMMIT&#33;&#33;&#33;

Thanks

[bestoutof2]

before kazaa lite came out lots of people was on kazaa so thay had that stuiped participation level thing trying to get it to grow and grow so thay rename a file so people can download it i just look at the kb and what is bandwidth and eta i donot know what that is but alot of theam do rename the file for fun so you can download theam we need more programs so we can find fakes or some thing and a lot of people donot share and i think the only reason people do share some times is cause that use kazaa and thay whont there participation level to grow i donot rename file i donot keep fakes i just delete theam cause it is a wast of my hard drive why keep theam there is no reason if it doesnot work on my kazaa lite or avi preview or my real one player or on my window media player for get it please make it so we know that it is a fake please and if alot of people have it it may not be a fake and if you are downloading a file if it has like 32 people online that have it click the+ button on the download when you are in the search screen and if some one renamed it most likely it is a fake and look at the kb a movie need to have at least 6 number like this for an example 297453kb

[crazy_billy_bats]

it really pisses me off too, but you need to calm down, theres ways round it &#33;&#33;

[aintgottime]

The most dumbest thing people do though, is when they download these plain black screens or films that have the wrong name, they KEEP IT. What retard would keep a blank file&#33; I ask you hundreds of users do it WHY?????????? Plus another question, why once a download has been completed and found not to be what it was named do people not rename it?

Sorry to say but theres too many internet morons out there&#33;

[ButWay]

as some one sayed(?) most people aren&#39;t aware of that they share fakes I mean if I have my computer running 24/7 it may take a few days before I can verify any DL movie or program

[aintgottime]

yeah and then the clever thing to do if its fake is delete it but many idoits dont&#33;

[shn]

[rOBINtheHOod]

If you dont know how to drive a car, does it make sense to get in one and try to do so?
I dont think it does, you might kill yourself or someone else.

you were 16 once, you tell me...

It&#39;s not my problem because you get yourself into something and dont know what the hell your doing.

It IS your problem because you choose to file share

I find it very hard to believe you unwittingly served up a fake file for 3 weeks.

I have 2 jobs, a child, a house to take care of and many other side projects. I appologize for not reaching the level of geekness you have obviously acheived (hence the linux) but I have a full plate and dont have time to waste my entire life plastered to a monitor.

You linux fags are all the same. you think you are better and smarter than everyone else. Tell you what, either use that OS for what it was made for and start serving files on mIRC as an actual server, or take that overbloated, cumbersome waste of space and give it to someone that will...what a joke.

[tyk]

There are so many fake files in Kazaa network that it has becomes part of Kazaa. Veterans have come up with ways to identify fakes and make their Kazaa downloading a pleasant experience.

Ways to identify fakes
1) use klboard verified section
2) look at both file title and file name b4 downloading (ie file info)
3) look at the file size
4) pm the user for verification
5) use AVI-Preview (or any other software that allow previewing)

For point (3), its more useful when downloading series or porno. Take for eg Southpark series, most files having description & name like "Southpark-304", which in fact its episode 305, and u may end up downloading 2 episode 305.
For porno, as we all know, they have thousand and one file names and descriptions, comparing file size is the only sure way not to downloading something thats already in your sharefolder.

Why do people keep fakes
1) They rename file name without editing file info in Kazaa
2) They ain&#39;t sure the file that cannot be play is due to software problem or simply its fake.
3) They do not know file in their share folder can be &#39;unshared&#39;.
4) They edit all file info with the &#39;This is Fake&#39; label to serve as warning to user who know or care to view file info b4 downloading.
5) They acknowledge fakes as being part of Kazaa and do not think any of their actions matter as the fake is shared by 50 or 100 other users.
6) They do this in hope to share their suffering with others.
7) They do this to discourage p2p sharing.
8) They do this for their entertainment.
9) The reasons goes on.........

Why do people keep complaining about fakes
1) They spend weeks to download the movie (esp 56K user), and when the day it is finally completed, imagine their disappointment and rage to find out it is fake (worse still, its a 700M blank file).
2) They find it so unfair and unimaginable that they do their fair part of sharing genuine files while others Kazaa users abuse this mutual trust.
3) They have high hope for both humanity and Kazaa community, and believe by bring out the issue, a solution maybe found to settle or prevent this problem in the future.
4) They are lazy or they don&#39;t know the ways to identify fakes.
5) They are .........

Why do members get irritated by this issue
1) Countless threads have touch on this topics and there bound to be one or two similar thread raised by some new comers every now and then.
2) They acknowledge fake files as part of Kazaa and there is absolutely no fool-proof solution to this issue, and they get tired of all these shouting and cursing of &#39;Why do people share fake files&#39;. The only thing they can do is to explain the situation and give advice to new comer to accept the fact or reality. But they are human, sometimes (or most of the time) their patient may wear thin, and their comments may not be so friendly.
3) Most or all members of the board are trust worthy, and they do their parts by sharing genuine files, and a thread like &#39;Why do u people share fakes&#39; is not applicable in this forum.
4) ......


Some suggestions:

1) Can we merge all threads about fake files issue into a &#39;All About Fake Files&#39; thread for people who want to post verified fakes, people who want to express/vent their frustration and anger when downloaded fake files, members who like to share tips on how to avoid downloading fakes?

2) I&#39;m not too sure is this include in FAQ, can we include a beginner guide or step-by-step procedure about editing files info in Kazaa Help Content? Say make it prominent in the Kazaa Readme or as a Text display in Kazaa interface to gain maximum user&#39;s attention as a step to better educate users on fake files awareness. In addition with a direct link to this website, for any further info about fake files topic, like step-by-step use of AVI-Preview, one-step tools for better file info management, how to use verified section, etc.

[rOBINtheHOod]

A whole board on fakes would be a great idea. I have some good ways of identifying both, but I think they would just be wasted on this thread...and to hard to find for people that really need to know. If only the resident programmers had access to the source code. That would take care of alot of these types of problems for sure.
some of the categories could be:

1.ranting and venting
2.known fakes
3.tips & tricks to spot fakes
4.tips & tricks to find viable files

i think it would really help relieve some of the frustration and flaming going on.