Philosophy

Z · 06-04-2003, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by WeeMouse@4 June 2003 - 18:14
Philosophy is trying to discover why. At least that is the Mouse's humble understanding!

I've never really been bothered with why. If I ask myself a question, I want to be sure that there is an answer for it (ie where is the cheeeez? Oh yeah - I ate it all&#33

but then again, i am very tired....

why what? there are many umbrella questions (ie. meaning of life, existence of god, etc..) and tons of questions under those. i have a debate next tuesday. and a project due friday. the project is on "what is art" and my debate topic is "a govt's primary objective is to ensure stability and prosperity in society at ALL COSTS" . i am against this. can you guys give me some points for it??

**Skweeky** · 06-04-2003, 11:19 PM

/me loves philosophy

I took this logics-class at uni last semester and it was pretty cool. With philosophy you can prove anything

imported_stg1123 · 06-04-2003, 11:20 PM

Z that is a very heavy topic and if you are against it that is going to be a tough one but not impossible. Which side of the debate do you need points for?

**Kid1A** · 06-04-2003, 11:23 PM

A ? for you Philisopical people

To What Extent Can Thought Develop Without Language?

Z · 06-04-2003, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by stg1123@4 June 2003 - 18:20
Z that is a very heavy topic and if you are against it that is going to be a tough one but not impossible. Which side of the debate do you need points for?

i am against the statement. so far i have:
- people's rights and freedoms should not be violated
- a perfect society is almost considered communism, and has many fallacies.

i am going to focus on the part "at all costs" because that is the big issue. no wanted this side of this topic (i had a different one before) but i volunteered to suck up to the teacher. shes such a joker. neways, some other guy joined me, so at least im not by myself. the other side is four people i think. damn.

**Skweeky** · 06-04-2003, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Kid1A@5 June 2003 - 00:23
A ? for you Philisopical people

To What Extent Can Thought Develop Without Language?

tricky one....

thoughts often are more images then anything else....but language helps you to develop urself....

I think thought without knowing language are more pretty limited

**Lamsey** · 06-04-2003, 11:34 PM

Philosophy is whatever you make it to be.

imported_stg1123 · 06-04-2003, 11:41 PM

@Z
ok. A perfect society is in truth a synthesis between the good of the group existing in a balance with the good of the individual. So the individuals rights are affected when a government can take any actions form an "at all costs" perspective. I have an old line which says that a governments job is to make sure the trash is taken away and our toilets flush propewrly through a decent sewege system. When they get that right they can start with health, eduaction, welfare, etc. If the government are running the country correctly (see it like a business) then they should be in profit like any well running company and then they wouldn't need "all costs" to ensure wealth and stability.
another point. Stability is a personal thing, you could argue that it has nothing to do with the govt. and that man's stability is dependant on a variety of personal and interpersonal factors.
Hope that helps a little