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    Here's what CBS think.





    Words and stuff http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2757766.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc View Post
    What do you think is worse, an uninformed vote or no vote at all?
    I vote for the uninformed vote being the worse of the two.

    Under-informed is just as bad.

    That said, I hope you get what/who you want.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    I prefer democracy to include as many people as possible. In an ideal World we would have a 100% turnout.

    The next stage would be for people to think more deeply about who they were voting for. However let's not shoot for the moon just now. If we can just get them off their arses for a wee while to go to the bother of choosing their own leaders that's a starting point.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but in Australia voting is compulsory. I like that idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley View Post
    I prefer democracy to include as many people as possible. In an ideal World we would have a 100% turnout.

    The next stage would be for people to think more deeply about who they were voting for. However let's not shoot for the moon just now. If we can just get them off their arses for a wee while to go to the bother of choosing their own leaders that's a starting point.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but in Australia voting is compulsory. I like that idea.
    I wouldn't mind it myself, as long as it included concurrent means-testing.

    Make 'em show up for the the test, then make the vote optional for those who pass.

    They'd figure it out after a few election cycles.

    EDIT:

    And make it a county, state, or federal holiday to suit.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley View Post
    I prefer democracy to include as many people as possible. In an ideal World we would have a 100% turnout.

    The next stage would be for people to think more deeply about who they were voting for. However let's not shoot for the moon just now. If we can just get them off their arses for a wee while to go to the bother of choosing their own leaders that's a starting point.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but in Australia voting is compulsory. I like that idea.
    The only way I would find compulsory voting remotely acceptable is if "none of the above" or similar wording were an option.
    Some people don't vote because there is no acceptable choice for them.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley View Post
    I prefer democracy to include as many people as possible. In an ideal World we would have a 100% turnout.

    The next stage would be for people to think more deeply about who they were voting for. However let's not shoot for the moon just now. If we can just get them off their arses for a wee while to go to the bother of choosing their own leaders that's a starting point.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but in Australia voting is compulsory. I like that idea.
    The only way I would find compulsory voting remotely acceptable is if "none of the above" or similar wording were an option.
    Some people don't vote because there is no acceptable choice for them.
    A quibble easily dealt with by adding that option.

    You don't have to get your knickers in a twist over it.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley View Post
    I prefer democracy to include as many people as possible. In an ideal World we would have a 100% turnout.

    The next stage would be for people to think more deeply about who they were voting for. However let's not shoot for the moon just now. If we can just get them off their arses for a wee while to go to the bother of choosing their own leaders that's a starting point.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but in Australia voting is compulsory. I like that idea.
    I wouldn't mind it myself, as long as it included concurrent means-testing.

    Make 'em show up for the the test, then make the vote optional for those who pass.

    They'd figure it out after a few election cycles.

    EDIT:

    And make it a county, state, or federal holiday to suit.
    Please explain that to me because my first reading of it and understanding of what you mean is appalling.
    "there is nothing misogynistic about anything, stop trippin.
    i type this way because im black and from nyc chill son "

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    Predicted turnout around 60%, whilst not great it's a decent improvement on the last time which was around 50%.

    That makes me happy, with reservations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    I wouldn't mind it myself, as long as it included concurrent means-testing.

    Make 'em show up for the the test, then make the vote optional for those who pass.

    They'd figure it out after a few election cycles.

    EDIT:

    And make it a county, state, or federal holiday to suit.
    Please explain that to me because my first reading of it and understanding of what you mean is appalling.
    I'd prefer an informed voter, and means-testing would serve the same function as a naturalization test does in the case of an immigrant.

    No reason to be appalled, JP.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    What do you mean by "means testing".

    In my country it refers to income.
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