Conservative Sarkozy is elected...

[j2k4]

...and France is doomed to a brighter future.

[Imagine_If]

This will not be the last word...

[MaxOverlord]

...and France is doomed to a brighter future.

Let's all sit back and enjoy a cigar in the spirit of that great jolly man Churchill. I will personally enjoy seeing the youth throw their tantrums.
Funny how the "peace" crowd always reacts to such things by torching their own city...hmmm. Can anyone say Purrrrrrrrge!!!! Socialism is such a beautiful thing to watch...no? Makes for great television. Robespierre is rolling in his grave.....headless of course. Have a good one!!

[j2k4]

...and France is doomed to a brighter future.

Let's all sit back and enjoy a cigar in the spirit of that great jolly man Churchill. I will personally enjoy seeing the youth throw their tantrums.
Funny how the "peace" crowd always reacts to such things by torching their own city...hmmm. Can anyone say Purrrrrrrrge!!!! Socialism is such a beautiful thing to watch...no? Makes for great television. Robespierre is rolling in his grave.....headless of course. Have a good one!!

The riot footage inspires me...if the kids don't like it, it's got to be good.

[Biggles]

That wasn't a French riot! That was the French barely getting out of the starting blocks. A mere scratch of the navel.

The UMF have been in power for 12 years so despite the rhetoric I would be surprised if much changes. The new chap is more "international" in approach and backs the Dems' phased withdrawal from Iraq and is softer on trade issues. Consequently, both sides in the US are pleased at the change (a rare thing with regards French politics in the US)

[MaxOverlord]

That wasn't a French riot! That was the French barely getting out of the starting blocks. A mere scratch of the navel.

A mere sharpening of the "National Razor"? I must admit it is almost laughable for me to even be seeing such debauchery by a "civilized" country. I must be living in a different time. Until we find out that these election were rigged by the "politik elite" as I'm sure will soon be out, I seem to think that these were Democratic Elections.

I'm always soo puzzled by those who fight and scream for just such an election and then when the results aren't to the favor of the aforementioned crowd they throw tantrums! This is of course the slapping down of all who are apposed to the views of the disenfranchised and the working class(whoever that is.) Maybe if such people acted in a more civilized and comprehensible manner people like myself would take them seriously.

Until then I guess I'm just a fascist.....oh my!!

[jimbo12345]

I didn't like either him or Royale, but Royal seemed to be unable to keep her emotions in check on some issues. On the live debate, she lost it several times on issues that were close to her, and, considering she's running for president, behaved terribly. Sarkozy pointed it out, but there was no need.

Nothing wrong with passion, but people expect level headedness from their top brass in most times.

Sarkozy has a harder immigration policy, which i think really needs. It's all got too P.C. in Europe, and no one dares speak out about the floods of unwanted people washing up on their shores for fear of being labelled a racist.

I think this is will be a key factor in elections in countries such as Spain and the UK.

But fuck it, i'm English. As long as they don't block the ports/veto our war movements, let entente cordial roll.

[j2k4]

That wasn't a French riot! That was the French barely getting out of the starting blocks. A mere scratch of the navel.

The UMF have been in power for 12 years so despite the rhetoric I would be surprised if much changes. The new chap is more "international" in approach and backs the Dems' phased withdrawal from Iraq and is softer on trade issues. Consequently, both sides in the US are pleased at the change (a rare thing with regards French politics in the US)

Please forgive my fervor, Les; I saw flames and made overmuch of it.

Still, Chirac will be gone momentarily, and that is reason enough for restrained celebration.

I may even buy a nice Armagnac...

[Biggles]

That wasn't a French riot! That was the French barely getting out of the starting blocks. A mere scratch of the navel.

A mere sharpening of the "National Razor"? I must admit it is almost laughable for me to even be seeing such debauchery by a "civilized" country. I must be living in a different time. Until we find out that these election were rigged by the "politik elite" as I'm sure will soon be out, I seem to think that these were Democratic Elections.

I'm always soo puzzled by those who fight and scream for just such an election and then when the results aren't to the favor of the aforementioned crowd they throw tantrums! This is of course the slapping down of all who are apposed to the views of the disenfranchised and the working class(whoever that is.) Maybe if such people acted in a more civilized and comprehensible manner people like myself would take them seriously.

Until then I guess I'm just a fascist.....oh my!!

There is more of a street political culture in France and some other European countries this is true However, with regards civilisation one might argue that this is in the eye of the beholder. Despite the odd rock or two thrown and some street ballet between police and protestors were there serious injuries? One might find that in the same period more people died in casual street crime in the US than in France with all her riots and crime. Is this civilisation and progress? Also, regarding conspiracies of the elite, I thought this had reached near industrial proportions in the US. I recall having near neural meltdown trying to follow the 9/11 conspiracy theories espouced by one of your countrymen on another board.

I will most surprised if following the emotion of the election announcement the French do not settle down very quickly to get on with the democratic process.

[MaxOverlord]

There is more of a street political culture in France and some other European countries this is true However, with regards civilisation one might argue that this is in the eye of the beholder. Despite the odd rock or two thrown and some street ballet between police and protestors were there serious injuries? One might find that in the same period more people died in casual street crime in the US than in France with all her riots and crime. Is this civilisation and progress? Also, regarding conspiracies of the elite, I thought this had reached near industrial proportions in the US. I recall having near neural meltdown trying to follow the 9/11 conspiracy theories espouced by one of your countrymen on another board.

I will most surprised if following the emotion of the election announcement the French do not settle down very quickly to get on with the democratic process.

First off you can't compare the actions of a people living in a free society of 300 million who do things because of their own individual "problems" with a mob-rule mentality of a political persuasion acting out with rocks and firebombs and overturning cars.

The difference is between like-minded people acting out of disgust for what they perceive as injustices by the political system and a single individual acting out against society.

As for the 9/11 people. These are fabrications by people who have no facts to back up their charges. To compare a few "oddballs" who think their own government pre-planned and killed 3000 of its own citizens to a band of miscreants torching and ravaging their own cities is a little off...no?