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Thread: Trent Reznor: 'No wonder people steal music'

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    The NIN frontman rails against overpriced music in his band's latest blog posting.

    You know I think a band really shows its true character when it comes down to a battle over either profits or creativity. It's when a bands back is up against that the wall that heart and soul really comes out.

    Sure Metallica, for instance, was a great band but, as soon as Lars started griping that his band was unable to get every penny that it deserved, that his million-dollar billfold was a bit light, it really made you see them for who they were. Rather than propose an alternative or show at least some kind of empathy for teenage kids unable to otherwise afford to buy all their albums, they railed against file-sharers and never seemed to miss an opportunity to reiterate RIAA talking points. As a fan of Metallica it was very painful to watch.

    It easy for a band to say that they're as rebels, or try to say to their audience that they're free wheeling, creative souls but, as always the proof is deeds not words.

    We saw it with Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam where they took Ticketmaster's high ticket price monopoly to task and worked for years to try and change it.

    The Dave Matthews Band allows fans to post and share live concert recordings and footage on their Ants Marching site in the spirit of the Greatful Dead and other artists whose main focus was on the music itself and not what the music put into their pockets.

    NIN is a band that seems to be in tune with its listeners and what the future holds for music distribution and its ability to stay relevant. It has posted tracks from Year Zero on The Pirate Bay, and even made some tracks, clips, and snippets of material available for download on its band's site.

    Now, I think Trent Reznor, NIN's lead singer, has made an even more startling revelation than any previous, observing the high price of physical CDs and realizing why it is that people steal music.

    He writes:

    As the climate grows more and more desperate for record labels, their answer to their mostly self-inflicted wounds seems to be to screw the consumer over even more. A couple of examples that quickly come to mind:

    * The ABSURD retail pricing of Year Zero in Australia. Shame on you, UMG. Year Zero is selling for $34.99 Australian dollars ($29.10 US). No wonder people steal music. Avril Lavigne's record in the same store was $21.99 ($18.21 US). By the way, when I asked a label rep about this his response was: "It's because we know you have a real core audience that will pay whatever it costs when you put something out - you know, true fans. It's the pop stuff we have to discount to get people to buy."

    So... I guess as a reward for being a "true fan" you get ripped off.

    * The dreaded EURO Maxi-single. Nothing but a consumer rip-off that I've been talked into my whole career. No more.

    The point is, I am trying my best to make sure the music and items NIN puts in the marketplace have value, substance and are worth you considering purchasing. I am not allowing Capital G to be repackaged into several configurations that result in you getting ripped off.

    We are planning a full-length remix collection of substance that will be announced soon.

    To be fair "Year Zero" is being sold for $9.99 on but, it has a list price of $17.99 and heavens knows how much it retails for elsewhere. If it really is $30 bucks in Australia I don't why anybody in that country would buy a CD ever again. Can you imagine shelling out $30 bucks for an album that has maybe 2 or 3 good tracks? It's insane, and it's nice to finally see a music artist say as much. When was the last time you heard J-Lo or any of the other "top" acts like Usher or Justin Timberlake complain about high-priced CDs? It's the high price of physical CDs that has made people to turn to free methods like P2P and file-sharing programs like BitTorrent, KaZaA Lite, etc..

    Anyways, it's always refreshing to hear an artist acknowledge the plight of his fans and the insanity of trying to bleed them dry for $30 bucks an album.


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    mr. nails's Avatar m@D @n!m3 BT Rep: +1
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    with every decade nin's sound changes and it's ALWAYS a different sound. for me i like the differences. sure, i may like the previous sound more, but i enjoy the music. i'll get the album any way i can and mostly dish out the money at the live shows. tickets, t-shirts and of course the back stage and after parties. they get my money either way and i dont' see a problem.

    lol, what the above paragraph had to do with the subject idk, but $30 for a cd is retarded. lol, even though i've been a victim of it be4. meh, in the end everyone gets paid either way so it really doesn't matter. new nails album is great btw! buy it!?
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    i dont like most nin, but the lyrics really seem to be great in most of there songs. trent is one deep guy--thats for sure.

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    he also claims to steal music himself.


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    It's true what he says. The "true fans" get punished because they love the artist so much they'll pay whatever to get boxsets and anything else. I have been paying $80+ for 2Pac related DVDs (that's 1 DVD at $80) and others even more expensive. lol The obsessed fans dish out the money but the normal casual fans will not and turn to limewire or only get compilation discs like Greatest Hits. If you look up Thug Life Vol. 1 on it's an old album with only 10 tracks but it's $18 + 4 = $22 total for 10 tracks on an old album? rip off but i payed it! lol The answer is obvious but greed won't let them come to their senses.

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    WHRST's Avatar immortalis BT Rep: +13BT Rep +13BT Rep +13
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    ...the future
    have not payed for music in a while

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    Hurt was a great song by Johnny Cash of course.


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