i just think civil conflict is far more likely with these preconditionsOriginally posted by hobbes@16 June 2003 - 03:51
From the impeachment thread, posted by Echidna:
"i hope he is pleased he has so many blind & reactionary supporters, i don't think they comprehend how soon their great nation is going to crash and burn [$7+ trillion personal debt, 3+ guns per person, >2% of population in prison] civil war II is all but a forgone conclusion, but patriotism emboldens the blind i guess [although i don't think true patriots would support bush]"
I'm waiting for Echidna to flesh this out for me because this leaves me scratching my head.
The cycle of poverty greatly explains the guns, murder rate, and prison population. We are not amassing weapons against anyone, we are just shooting each other.
the vast personal debt could easily become a contributing factor, as mass refusal of credit would invoke considerable antagonism
- a great divide between the haves and the have-nots
- a large number of arms easily available
you're not quite correct, i agree that guns in america are mostly used by americans who are just shooting other americans, [usually poor americans]
but the naval fleet, the USAF and all their collective cruise missiles are not being amassed against americans are they? and their not being amassed for non-americans either.
[more than 3 guns per person in the USA is a stat not including firearms held by military or police agencies - i don't know what the number of arms is including these armories]
PS. i really really hope that the USA doesn't crumble very soon, the global destabilisation which would follow will be akin to the dark ages after the fall of the western roman empire. and the results in north america would be worse than i care to imagine
So please vote carefully [but make sure you do vote] if you're in the USA :: Clocker seems a good candidate