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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    the wishful ramblings of the uninformed?

    read this

    http://www.ecos.sourceware.org/ml/au.../msg00420.html

    russ allbery is the author of inn one of the big usenet news servers

    how about an actual usenet service provider

    http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopi...arrier#p401560

    they probably have a lawyer that checked, so thinks i will take their opinion of their legal status over other wishful thinking posts by random posters

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    Quote Originally Posted by pham View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    the wishful ramblings of the uninformed?

    read this

    http://www.ecos.sourceware.org/ml/au.../msg00420.html

    russ allbery is the author of inn one of the big usenet news servers

    how about an actual usenet service provider

    http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopi...arrier#p401560

    they probably have a lawyer that checked, so thinks i will take their opinion of their legal status over other wishful thinking posts by random posters
    And why should we trust that your "source" is any more informed?

    The first writer states :

    "If you're currently making decisions based on your believe that CPAN is a common carrier, I'd recommend that you check that belief with competent legal counsel."

    I'm not familiar with the term or whether it has fuck all to do with NGs, but I'll assume so at the moment for the sake of argument.

    The second link is just another forum post. I have no reason to buy into what they're selling any more than the forum post you're attempting to debunk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pham View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    the wishful ramblings of the uninformed?

    read this

    http://www.ecos.sourceware.org/ml/au.../msg00420.html

    russ allbery is the author of inn one of the big usenet news servers

    how about an actual usenet service provider

    http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopi...arrier#p401560

    they probably have a lawyer that checked, so thinks i will take their opinion of their legal status over other wishful thinking posts by random posters
    Still no references to any laws. Just opinions.
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    how can you have a reference to a law that does no exist? ask me too to prove that your movie theater is not a common carrier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pham View Post
    how can you have a reference to a law that does no exist? ask me too to prove that your movie theater is not a common carrier?
    Read up and have fun:

    http://www.davros.org/legal/carriers.html#carriers

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    As far as i know the usenet providers have value-added common carrier status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiForce View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pham View Post
    how can you have a reference to a law that does no exist? ask me too to prove that your movie theater is not a common carrier?
    Read up and have fun:

    http://www.davros.org/legal/carriers.html#carriers
    That says nothing about Internet, show me law that gives Usenet providers or even Internet providers with common carrier! There are many laws to say many things but pointing at unrelevant law is not useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pham View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MultiForce View Post
    That says nothing about Internet, show me law that gives Usenet providers or even Internet providers with common carrier! There are many laws to say many things but pointing at unrelevant law is not useful.
    You seem to be the leading expert here. Why don't you kindly show us?


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    BUT can they 'grass' people up for what they download from their servers???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoneFreak View Post
    BUT can they 'grass' people up for what they download from their servers???
    I don't know any usenetprovider that logs what you download, they just log the amount of traffic.

    If you use secure connections you should be even more "safe" but personally I don't think it's going to happen that anyone is spying on you, unless you download/upload child porn etc.

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