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    Originally posted by evilbagpuss@1 July 2003 - 18:27
    Are you implying that Bush had something to do with the Supreme courts decision?
    Not at all; nor did the previous administration, or the one before that.

    EBP-it's not like I'm asking anyone to read between the lines here.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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  2. The Drawing Room   -   #12
    So if your not implying that the President has anything to do with the Supreme Courts decisions what was the meaning behind this then?

    Ironic this didn't occur under a democrat administration, huh?
    For extra irony you could recall that Bush had the opportunity to get rid of this fascist law in Texas.

    Instead he spent his time arguing that it is acceptable to put mentally retarded individuals on death row and have them executed.

    What a guy...

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    Originally posted by evilbagpuss@1 July 2003 - 22:21
    You have nutters on both sides of the fence. Remember McCarthyism, the committee of unamerican activities, segregation etc? Is that the kind of "freedom" he was referring to?

    Considering its 2003 and gay couples have only just won the right to have sex and not be arrested for it in 13 states, I find it hard to see why this guy thinks the liberals are "winning".
    Not just gay couples!
    Hooray for sodomy

  4. The Drawing Room   -   #14
    Originally posted by S+A
    Not just gay couples!
    Wrong.

    The law was changed in Texas in 1973 to allow heterosexual couples to engage in anal sex. So the change in the law in 2003 (lol&#33 relates to "just gay couples".

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    Originally posted by evilbagpuss@1 July 2003 - 16:21
    You have nutters on both sides of the fence.
    There are nutters on your side of the fence?

    This surprises me; can you name some?

    Does this fence have a third side, somehow?
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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  6. The Drawing Room   -   #16
    There are nutters on your side of the fence?

    This surprises me; can you name some?

    Does this fence have a third side, somehow?
    The fence has many sides of course. However going by the authors material in your original post there are only 2 sides. The "liberal/socialists" side and, I assume, the "conservative/republicans" side. Something refelected in the makeup of the major political parties in the US today. I was merely adhering to that "black/white no shades of grey" paradigm so as not to go OT. After all this thread is about that material you posted.. isnt it?

    Of the "liberal/socialists", some think that a womans capability to have a child is sexism. Of the "conservative/republicans" some think that the banning of segregation was PC gone mad. These are the nutters I was referring to.

    I havent seen you talk about the authors beliefs at all in this thread. What do you think? Do you believe that "liberal/socialists" tactics are "divisive", "self promoting", "race-baiting" and promote "class warfare"? Or was it the conservatives who demanded segregation be abolished? Would that count as "race-baiting"?

    Or was that material so partisan as to be utterly useless as a basis for an informed debate?

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    Originally posted by evilbagpuss@2 July 2003 - 18:11
    Or was that material so partisan as to be utterly useless as a basis for an informed debate?
    If I stipulate (for the sake of "debate") this is true, why are you posting, EBP?

    You just bemoaned the lack of potential for informed debate.

    The tee is yours, sir.

    Enlighten us!
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    Originally posted by evilbagpuss@2 July 2003 - 18:11
    What do you think?
    BTW-You'll never convince me you care what anyone here thinks.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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  9. The Drawing Room   -   #19
    Originally posted by j2k4+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>If I stipulate (for the sake of "debate") this is true, why are you posting, EBP?
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    I did my very best with this....

    Originally posted by evilbagpuss+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (evilbagpuss)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You have nutters on both sides of the fence. Remember McCarthyism, the committee of unamerican activities, segregation etc? Is that the kind of "freedom" he was referring to?

    Considering its 2003 and gay couples have only just won the right to have sex and not be arrested for it in 13 states, I find it hard to see why this guy thinks the liberals are "winning".
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    You see I was pointing out the flaws in his viewpoint and attemting to highlight the partisan attitude.

    You responded with this...

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    Ironic this didn&#39;t occur under a democrat administration, huh?

    Some people are afraid of our right-leaning court-more irony.
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    Which just highlights your partisan attitude. Any chance to bash the democrats and you jump at it. It was also utterly irrelevant as the Supreme court is independent, as you conceded.

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    BTW-You&#39;ll never convince me you care what anyone here thinks.[/quote]

    And you&#39;ll never convince me that any of your replies to my posts arent motivated by personal dislike. I can only assume you think I give a shit as you continue to post provocative replies which usually have very little to do with the original point of the thread.

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    Originally posted by evilbagpuss@2 July 2003 - 19:52
    You see I was pointing out the flaws in his viewpoint and attemting to highlight the partisan attitude.

    At last I have discerned your modus operandi:

    You don&#39;t suffer the restraints of partisonship, so in any debate into which you insinuate yourself you automatically are accorded the presumptive high-ground and superior forward, rear, and flanking position.

    From here on, then, whenever we see your avitar, we should all immediately divest ourselves of our best arguments and give you a great big salaam, yes?
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

    -Mark Twain

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