The best BT user is some guy with no life, who seeds just to 1:1 and leaves, fills requests all day, helps you like a slave, will buff your account for you, will suck cock and give money.
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The best BT user is some guy with no life, who seeds just to 1:1 and leaves, fills requests all day, helps you like a slave, will buff your account for you, will suck cock and give money.
Guess this country:
-Child porn is legal to possess.
-Home of lolicon & enjo kosai
-Subways are littered with "Warning: Perverts lurking" signs
-Has women only subway cars because of the high sexual assault rates
-Cartoon child porn is a $6 billion industry
-90% of child porn on the internet is from this country
-Ranked equally with Cambodia and Ethiopia for prostitution
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Just wanted to say 10 pages. Whoo.
Also a lot of traders don't just "collect accounts." Say I have a SCT invite and I want a TT invite.
Now I can:
1. Give my SCT invite away and make someone very happy
2. Then post asking for a TT invite when dozens of other users who have been here longer, contributed and posted more than me, want it and have asked for it
3. And hope.
Or I can:
1. Make a thread trading SCT for TT
2. Get an offer within a few minutes. Trade. And now I would have TT.
Which way is easier and safer? (safer meaning I'm actually going to get an invite, and not just hoping someone will invite me)
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Morality: the way we should live as a society. To be moral is to trade value-for-value, regardless of whether the establishment allows it. This applies to all products produced by one's mind (whether it is a book, a music album, or a tracker invite.)Originally Posted by squirr3l
1o I don't see ANY morality in breaking rules of something you are feeding upon.Trading should be held as moral and honest when without scammers because of the implication of trading invites value-for-value.
To be against traders is to be against the free market.
You once again misunderstand me. Why else would if input the phrase "when without scammers" if not to highlight the unbreakably honest transaction between two traders, who consent to trade equally valued invitations. Ratio proofs and Speedtests in giveaways can be forged, after all.
Again, I am not regarding whether the establishment allows such trade agreements.
squirr3l, as far as I am concerned, the internet is apart of reality. It follows the same economic logic. Mind you, I will explain what I mean:
Freedom is prevented by the establishment, or the tracker staff in this case, but if this trade agreement is done freely without sounding off any alarms, then it is perfectly reasonable to compare it to a free market, in which you produce something and then trade it for another product of equal value.
My analogy is correct. This really isn't too hard to understand. Maybe you should reintroduce yourself to the definition of a free market (laissez-faire capitalism)?
Last edited by Ænima; 12-07-2007 at 10:19 PM. Reason: addition
Shut up u Lovely Boi
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You pays your money and you makes your choice, you have read in this thread what half will think of you, and that the other half couldn't give a shit.
When and if you are looking for a freebie into the more elite sites at some time in the future, then remember your choices that you made earlier on your path will come back to play a major part in who gives you that invite, you either walk in the front door and feel proud that you go there on merit, or you sneak in the back door and hope they never catch you and disable your account. The smaller the base, the easier to trace.
It cannot be stressed enough, respect.
Yes Sir, I'm Right On It!!
What are you talking about? Your definition of morality makes no sense. According to what you've said selling arms to terrorists would be moral as I would be trading value for value without regard to whether it was allowed or not. The morality of a transaction cant be determined in a vaccuum only by reference to its form, it must be done by looking at its substance and its context. I'm not saying trading invites is immoral, just that your argument doesn't add up.
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My argument isn't adding up because you are looking at it too closely. I meant to imply that the other factors involved in the transaction are moral. Giving guns to terrorists isn't exactly the right way to live as a society, is it?What are you talking about? Your definition of morality makes no sense. According to what you've said selling arms to terrorists would be moral as I would be trading value for value without regard to whether it was allowed or not. The morality of a transaction cant be determined in a vaccuum only by reference to its form, it must be done by looking at its substance and its context. I'm not saying trading invites is immoral, just that your argument doesn't add up.
Let's keep on topic. Why is trading invites amoral?
I suppose you're right.
I don't care to attain invites from people who hold grudges
Last edited by Ænima; 12-07-2007 at 11:04 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I wont redress the point for the sake of staying on topic
I dont think it is. Given that everyone here doesnt think twice about flaunting the law to download the latest movie, its a bit rich when someone turns around and claims someone is immoral for breaking a trackers rules. It's not something I do myself but I can understand why people trade to get where they need to be. I still havent figured out why people trade for fun though, that just seems pretty sad to me.
At the end of the day though, if you choose to trade you cant really complain when someone chooses not to give you free invites for fear that you will just trade on the account in a months time. Once you've made your bed you have to sleep in it.
I also have to say that in my experience most of the "traders" here seem to be kids who never leave the invites section and make no other contribution in their posts other than "Level 8 for Level6!!! Youre crazy. You must offer more!!!!!!!!!" Im not saying they are all like that but its definitely a pattern, therefore its not really surprising when others dont warm to them.
Last edited by Zeus; 12-07-2007 at 10:58 PM.
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Trade is such a loose term. Even during giveaways (among anonymous parties) there is a social element of trade.I dont think it is. Given that everyone here doesnt think twice about flaunting the law to download the latest movie, its a bit rich when someone turns around and claims someone is immoral for breaking a trackers rules.
Every one respects those who give away invites. Every one also ascribes them a multitude of "BT Rep." Is that not trading your invites for social appraisal and other potential compensations? Is that not trading value-for-value?
Following this logic, giveaways should be decried as much as trading invite-for-invite, potentially even more for hiding its true color underneath the pretense of "altruism."
Last edited by Ænima; 12-07-2007 at 11:17 PM. Reason: revision
why u just think of giveaways like that why u cant think the person who do those giveaway only he spent alot of time to get some trackers and he wanna make it easly for others why its call help each other thats the point of giveawaysTrade is such a loose term. Even during giveaways (among anonymous parties) there is a social element of trade.
Every one respects those who give away invites. Every one also ascribes them a multitude of "BT Rep." Is that not trading your invites for social appraisal and other potential compensations? Is that not trading value-for-value?
Following this logic, giveaways should be decried as much as trading invite-for-invite, potentially even more for hiding its true color underneath the pretense of "altruism."
Why do you ask me to get back on topic and then start talking about value-for-value again. A trade by its very nature involves the exhange of value for value. i dont really get what your point is? I've already said I dont think its immoral and Ive explained why the exchange of value-for-value has little to do with morality. I dont however think that the increasing commoditisation of torrent trackers is a good thing for the bt scene in general.
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