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    While I don't think downloading other stuff is particularily immoral, downloading porn is even less so.

    From what I understand, it's not uncommon for people in that industry to exploit newbies to the business, no to mention all the trickery wot goes on online, where people lose money and so forth, getting stuck with dialers and woteva connected to porn sites.

    Not to mention that they rely on lonely people with no outlet for their urges to pay them lots of money.

    And some porn promotes some pretty skewed values, at that

    Hence, a lot of them aren't nice people, and people not paying them (that's what it is, it isn't quite robbery) won't keep me up at night.
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    Great post, ending with a quality WAHEY!

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    its been five weeks, porn is anything but a bad thing.

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    stealing things in the outside world means stealing material items which could be traded for money/other things.
    Stealing on the internets means getting something that had 0 value in the first place (bytes). If it didn't really exist how could it be traded? Or, if you were never going to pay for it then what's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossco View Post
    If it didn't really exist how could it be traded? Or, if you were never going to pay for it then what's the difference?
    The question is whether you indeed weren't going to pay for it had you not been able to get it for free.
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    I'm just broke as hell so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rossco View Post
    stealing things in the outside world means stealing material items which could be traded for money/other things.
    Stealing on the internets means getting something that had 0 value in the first place (bytes). If it didn't really exist how could it be traded? Or, if you were never going to pay for it then what's the difference?
    The individual would be the only one to really know if they would have bought the product, were it not stolen via the gift of internets. See pro267's post.

    It's an interesting point either way. A DVD movie isn't really the physical media you buy, it's the intellectual property stored upon it. It's the movie itself, not the medium.

    So what would be more wrong, downloading a movie, or stealing the DVD you burned it to.

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    In the future, when positing questions about ethics it would be less biased if you didn't preload the question with terms like "stealing".

    Ross, your entire post is pish.
    Seriously, completely mushheaded.
    What does this mean exactly...
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    if you were never going to pay for it then what's the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    In the future, when positing questions about ethics it would be less biased if you didn't preload the question with terms like "stealing".
    Don't see your point. A reasonable, ethical definition of stealing is taking something belonging to someone else, without paying them for it. (Legally it would have to contain the idea of permanently depriving, but we're not talking law here).

    However if you would like to use another word for taking stuff that doesn't belong to you, without paying for it, I'm open to suggestions. Or are you suggesting that by using a euphemism the theft is more palatable to you.

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    No, thick person, you don't use the word stealing because it predetermines the answer.
    Ethically, the act of theft is not permissible regardless of the item taken.

    Your question, as originally stated, only allows for one answer so it doesn't merit discussion.
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