First things first, vipv2 has instituted a "donation" scheme. Of course this is not truly a donation, but a transaction. According to the donation page, "donors" will not get auto-banned, but will only be banned manually. They will also receive a longer time to fix their ratios.
This is not the classic give 10 bucks get 10gb type of transaction, but it is essentially the same thing. We all know that "manually banned" means "never banned", and even if they are actually banned for low ratios, they are given extra time to fix it. According to a post by a staffer, they will be given an additional month. Who has to support and balance out that low ratio for that extra month? That's right, non paying users. So the vipv2 owner is essentially selling something that isn't his to sell, the non paying users bandwidth. Additionally, that extra month gives the "donors" an extra month to leech. So, this is quite obviously a P2L scheme.
Of course nobody wants to make quick accusations, so I opened a thread and asked how much extra time will be given to donors, and if they will actually ban them manually or not. The thread was very quickly locked without a satisfactory answer by administrators. The subject is obviously very touchy to them, because a large number of people do not supoprt P2L trackers, and if their "disguised" system was highlighted as P2L, they obviously lose potential profits.
I start a second thread:
My account is then deleted/banned as I asked, but an administrator edits my post to say "im gay bye bye". Afraid of the truth, are we? You want a lexus like ersan, too, don't you? That's how a business operates: when it cannot reply with arguments, it silences.Whoa there mister administrator/moderator/whatever! Your thread locking finger is really trigger happy, isn't it? It seems P2L is a touchy subject..
P2L = Pay to Leech. Removing ratio requirements for people who pay, allows them to leech. Therefore: pay, to leech.
I don't think it's right for the tracker administrator to sell MY bandwidth, so I have deleted all my uploaded torrents, and I ask you to delete my account (where did delacct.php go?).
I wish you the very best for the future..actually, I don't. I hope you get fucking owned like Ersan..it should be fun seeing a scenenotice about you guys
After a while someone replied and asked why they edited my post. He was banned almost immediately.
This is quite obviously the behaviour of businessmen, not pirates. This is the behaviour of people that want to profit from others work (sceners rips, users bandwidth and HDD space), not the work of people who believe in the freedom of information and freedom of speech.
A friend of mine had a very large number of vipv1 collections, lets see a conversation beween him and an administrator:
After that he FXPd tens of gigabytes in tens of collections. (There are logs to prove that if anyone is a skeptic).<DrJ> hello
<xOiNk> may i ?
<DrJ> whats the problem?
<xOiNk> ok here we go
<xOiNk> i have MOST of the VIP1 collections
<xOiNk> on a pretty fast ftp
<xOiNk> and as vipv2 stays NON p2l
<xOiNk> i am willing to help in anyway
<xOiNk> i can FXP all of them to u
<DrJ> v2 will never have any sort of donations for credit scheme
<DrJ> can you make a list of the collections for me and pastebin.com it?
<xOiNk> fuck pastebin
<xOiNk> privacy ftw
<xOiNk> wait a sec
Now, there are two alternatives here:
1) The only P2L system the administrator can imagine is a credit scheme, in which case he is a useless idiot that shouldn't be running a torrent tracker.
2) He is lying.
I have a hard time believing that he is a complete moron (even though the large number of bugs on the site would indicate otherwise), so I must go with no 2. Lying and exploiting other peoples good will to help, simply in order to increase their profits. They probably kill kittens, too.
If no 1 is the case, then I don't see why anyone would want an account on a website that is run by an idiot. Think about your security people!
Even if you don't care about P2L, I urge you: don't support these people. They are not pirates, they are not file sharers. They are profiteering, lying gluttons, and they have no place in our file sharing world.
PS: IRC logs courtesy of xOiNk