Patriots are cheateerrs

**DefX** · 02-03-2008, 03:01 AM

Well, forgive me for stating the obvious but it seems a new light has been shed on their unscrupulous ways going back to their 2002 SB win over the Rams.

I was specially interested in this paragraph:

Another former Patriots quarterback, who spoke to ESPN.com on condition of anonymity, says that New England pushes the envelope further than most teams and that the Patriots were doing so long before they were caught in September.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3227592

The timing of this news cracks me up somewhat

**dnero73** · 02-03-2008, 03:14 AM

never forget that game against the Raiders I hope the lose tommorow

**warofhell** · 02-03-2008, 10:33 AM

i dont think. pats are cheater. they have best defensive team in nfl and i.m.o. second offensive team. there is no reason to cheat!

**Busyman™** · 02-03-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by warofhell

i dont think. pats are cheater. they have best defensive team in nfl and i.m.o. second offensive team. there is no reason to cheat!

Really?

edit: Mmk, I had to check the defensive ranks. It's quite obvious that the Pats have the #1 offense (they broke Minny's record ffs).

Pittsburgh had the #1 defense and NE was #4. The only team that Pats really shut down was my Redskins (allowed one TD).

Btw, who knows what they had up their sleeve to win this year.

And yes they are cheaters.

**JunkBarMan** · 02-03-2008, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by DefX

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3227592

Wow, that guy is bitter. Looks like he needs to go do some prayers to get his mind right.

**grimms** · 02-03-2008, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by DefX

Well, forgive me for stating the obvious but it seems a new light has been shed on their unscrupulous ways going back to their 2002 SB win over the Rams.

I was specially interested in this paragraph:

Another former Patriots quarterback, who spoke to ESPN.com on condition of anonymity, says that New England pushes the envelope further than most teams and that the Patriots were doing so long before they were caught in September.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3227592

The timing of this news cracks me up somewhat

Oh boy. Not another Pats hater. My team is going to take it all tonight. Remember the Pats may of video taped a couple of games previously but other teams were doing it as well. Pats are the only team that got caught. Honestly i don't think it's as big as the media's making out to be. Everyones on the Pats hater bus these days but we are taking all. Best NFL team ever in this era! Only rival is 49er with Montana and Rice.

Originally Posted by grimms

Originally Posted by DefX

Well, forgive me for stating the obvious but it seems a new light has been shed on their unscrupulous ways going back to their 2002 SB win over the Rams.

I was specially interested in this paragraph:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3227592

The timing of this news cracks me up somewhat

Oh boy. Not another Pats hater (ESPN.com)well certain reporters. My team is going to take it all tonight. Remember the Pats may of video taped a couple of games previously but other teams were doing it as well. Pats are the only team that got caught. Honestly i don't think it's as big as the media's making out to be. Everyones on the Pats hater bus these days but we are taking all. Best NFL team ever in this era! Only rival is 49er with Montana and Rice.

**DefX** · 02-03-2008, 04:09 PM

Actually, I hated the Pats since Bob Kraft had the audacity to demand from the Jets their overall first round pick in exchange for Parcells back in 97. So no, I'm delighted to say I'm not a bandwagon jumper on this "hate the Pats" outcry.

You may be right that spying on opponents is not unique to the Patriots but it takes on a whole new and appaling level when you get caught doing it on your Super Bowl opponent prior to game day. Any advantage, no matter how small, is still an advantage. And for all we know, that might have been the edge the Pats needed to win that nail biter of a game against the Rams. Who's to say?

And it sure smells funny that Commish Goodell has destroyed those "Spygate" tapes