Filesharing is NOT Stealing

[edgarb]

Filesharing is not stealing.
The record companies are not losing money from me, because if I hadn't found all these songs, I wouldn't have bought them, I'd have just gone without

x2 if i had to pay for a cd i wouldn't have very many than

[rogerse]

filesharing not stealing.

Copyright infringement is illegal, thus stealing as far as law is concerned.

Oh, and they're are plenty of legitimate ppl out they're who may actually have afforded what they Dled, but chose to get it for free.

And can yuo really say you wouldn't have paid for anything that you DLed if it wasn't free.

Don't deny it, your a thief.

[Sonnentier]

We are no thieves. Lowering their income is not the same as stealing.

[emperorIX]

I'm not entirely sure how it works in most countries, but in North America copyright infringement (ie filesharing) and stealing, under the law, are two entirely different concepts. Theft is a criminal offense; whereas, copyright infringement is merely a civil offense. I don't think I've ever heard of someone serving prison time for sharing a couple of songs over Kazaa or whatever filesharing application they may use. But, I may be wrong on this, so please correct me if I am.

[PACE]

It may not be stealing, but it's still wrong and Illegal.

[dunkItOut]

It may not be stealing, but it's still wrong and Illegal.

so many people do it though.

[Jdsnut]

Theres a mix filesharing is weird in a way you know it is illegal.
But there also the fact that do you want to pay 20 bucks on a movie that might really bad, cause if its open you cant take it back so now youve got a crappy movie and down 20 bucks.
But until this is changed i think people will still continue to File share.

[Sonnentier]

It may not be stealing, but it's still wrong and Illegal.

Yes. Anyway, if you do it responsible and upright it's not that bad either.

[JGB]

It may not be stealing, but it's still wrong and Illegal.

Wrong and Illegal are not always the same.
I don't believe it is wrong, but it is illegal.

If I download something I find actually useful I'll pay for it, so no I don't see it as wrong. If they weren't free would I pay for them? No. Furthermore I wouldn't have tried a lot of stuff I have paid for if it wasn't shared first.
Example: I now use J river media center instead of itunes, before trying it I never would have bought it since Itunes was free and I didn't know how much better it was.
they get money they would have never got from me.

I especially feel this way about movies, yes I downloaded them but if I didn't download them would I pay the 20$ and the 2.50$/half-hour parking or 5$ each way on the bus for my girlfriend and I to watch them in theaters? No, because most of them suck. Before I started dowloading them I hadn't been to see a movie in over a year because whenever I went I felt robbed.
I downloaded a series of audiobooks for the dune series, they were awesome and I bought the series in book form, never would have given them a chance otherwise.


Since I started downloading them I've seen 2 movies this year, thats 40$ more then they'd have got out of me otherwise.

so I think its right, and in the end it benefits people who otherwise would have got 0$ from me.

[Disme]

I'm surprised how many people justify their behaviour with all kinds off excuses for what they are doing. It's to expensive, it's a shame to pay for a bad movie, piece of music, i ouldn't have bought it anyway, etc...

I just wonder what all these people would say or think if it happened to them. I guess they would be the first ones crying out loud that someone was stealing from them.

What do you think when your employer lowers your income ... do you think that would be fair ... I wouldn't.

Anyway ... this is an endless discussion and off course everybody's entitled to their own opinion so I guess we agree to disagree.

Cya.