tpb is safer than your mom

[markupmaster]

Eh? I've always used Demonoid when I wanted a certain movie/album not available on my private trackers...

[pone44]

Was not a member there but good point!

[quote=Tokeman;2832070]

"...private site has your activities stored..bla"
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Thats why all of us Oink members got sued when oink was busted right?
riiiight....

Sounds like crap to me.

[rvt]

The analysys is flawed. Earlier on in the article he argues against blocklists because they block legitimate peers and slow down your download meaning you are on the torrent longer and therefore more likely to be logged.
Now compare the average time spent downloading a TL torrent against the same torrent on TPB. Something that takes minutes on TL will take hours, if not days, on TPB.

Saying that you are one in millions on TPB compared to one in thousands on a private site is misleading as well. From the MPAAs POV, you are still one of millions downloading their film no matter where you get it from. They are no more likely to go after private site users than they are to go after public site users.

[sear]

I have to agree that it seems silly to say that you're safer on tpb than say SCT or TL. Though in the case of TL I know some people have gotten letters in the past. Also when you grab a torrent off a public site you end up seeding it back to about 14:1 by the time it's finished meaning your much more at risk. From what I understand it's uploading data that will cause you legal problems not downloading it. Though I'm not sure if they'd say in court how many copies of the file you distributed or just say you did it in general.

I did find this interesting.

If you can find it, what’s stopping someone in the pay of an anti-piracy organization from finding it too? That’s just common sense. Of course, as in the old saying - poachers make the best gamekeepers - quite often the people doing the investigations are not newcomers to p2p, but have been doing it for years themselves. In that respect, over most users, they have the advantage in experience.

Now common sense says it's true. So I'm wondering how deep inside private sites they are.

[ClaireDC]

lol i took a 2 month temp job working for my ISP. and i found out they don't monitor torrenting. so it don't matter.

Wish we were all privy to that kind of information for our ISPs haha.

[Sputnik]

The organizations hired to tackle p2p infringement really just care about numbers so it makes sense for them to stick to where most p2p activity is taking place and it's easiest to catch people out. Media companies strategy will be to take out the biggest most mainstream sites and make an example of them. Sueing every user on every site is just not viable.

[TP635]

Also when you grab a torrent off a public site you end up seeding it back to about 14:1 by the time it's finished meaning your much more at risk. From what I understand it's uploading data that will cause you legal problems not downloading it.

That is not always true; you can control your upload speed to match the dl speed and end with a 1:1. A ratio of 14:1 is more likely seen in private trackers with member on seedbox building up the buffer.

[sear]

True...just not for me lol I'm on a normal old 1mb up line and usually seed back no more than 2:1, and on the rare occasion I've used public trackers I never thought about limiting my upload speed.

[rvt]

It's worse when you load the torrent on a seed box and just leave it running.
Set to stop at 150%, but running at 5000KB/s limit I regularly hit 20:1 (2000%) or more.

Legally, any monitoring group should be able to prove that you uploaded one complete copy, and having uploaded more than 20 complete copies puts you more at risk.

I suppose he could be arguing for the fact that you can stop seeding at less than 1:1 on a public tracker with no problems (like banning) or even set your upload to 1kb/s, but that's what caused the problem with public trackers in the first place.

[TP635]

Where I come from; security is the least of my problem. The 'Authority' are still busy trying to get rid of pirated copies of the latest DVD from the street. Mabe in a few years time they have enough resources to try catch us BT users.