because I like contributing (giving upload) and do not like to pay for warez as ppl that prefer RS or NZB might love...
because I like contributing (giving upload) and do not like to pay for warez as ppl that prefer RS or NZB might love...
anti-trader
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nah man seed till you bleed i say.
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You're correct about there being community-trackers where speed or uploaded amount isn't the highest goal , but incorrect in assuming i don't belong to any . I have zero interest in 0-day mainstream gumph, so specialist trackers are where i'm at .Originally Posted by Disme
My question was & still is, why do people need the speed ?
It's a fashion thing, isn't it ?
Pirate's Life for me
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for me speed isn't always the issue, but in some cases i admit it is.You're correct about there being community-trackers where speed or uploaded amount isn't the highest goal , but incorrect in assuming i don't belong to any . I have zero interest in 0-day mainstream gumph, so specialist trackers are where i'm at .
My question was & still is, why do people need the speed ?
It's a fashion thing, isn't it ?
i won't wait for a frikkin' 700mb xvid movie for 4 days to download.
BCG Owner
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Well for me its not about speed for 1 thing, i can wait for 1 thing, its if i have a ton of stuff to download.
I have to admit i use NG most of the time, I hadnt downloaded a 360 game for about a month, so had a lot to catch up on.
Went onto NG, downloaded 80 gig in just over a day and i was capped for 5 hours of that.
So trackers, well from my point of view and BCG is, we are competing with the likes of NG.
If someone can go onto NG, download releases from 200 days ago, at their max speed, then i want BCG to do that as well.
On most trackers, a release thats been on the tracker, for 200 days, will probably go at a snails pace, if at all, so we are trying to change that philosophy.
But getting back to the subject at hand.
Most members of trackers overseed for promotions, but last time i checked i am sure a PU stands for Power USER not Power Uploader.
and you have to think that overseeding and hit and runs go hand in hand.
if 1 member seeds 50 * the size of the torrent, then thats 50 other users that have to hit and run (low ratio when finished and hard to seed back)
* that 1 member by 20 seedbox users and you have a problem.
Persona non grata
Unfortunately true.
Not to disparage anyone but on certain sites that allow freeleech on packs(that's meant to give people with poorer connections a break) who seems to be doing most of the uploading -people with 4 Tb up and a plus 10 ratio.
Give me a break.
Last edited by IdolEyes787; 06-19-2008 at 05:03 PM.
Overseeding is a serious problem and I am 95% set on not using my seedbox anymore in part because I don't want to be a part of this problem any longer. My buffers are just way too big since they are much greater than the amount I've downloaded for my own enjoyment. Speed is great, but the bandwith disparity has seriously deleterious effects on the torrent economy and even the community. It's fun to rock a 100/100 connection and a couple of TBs a month, but that's not what this is about. Bring it back to content and community rather than focusing on your ratio.
yeah, the "need for speed" (clever..) is not unconditional (for most). there is a conflict of interests between efficiency and equity -
- with extremely high speeds, the layman with a small pipe finds it extremely difficult to maintain an adequate ratio.
- with extremely low speeds, the layman with a small pipe finds it extremely easy to maintain an adequate ratio.
there is a conflict of interests.
i value speed on a site unconditionally. i couldn't care less if people have a hard time uploading on a nice site.
that's the price of being connected to people who max out your bandwidth.* that's the price of expecting everyone to seed what they give back. so, either get a high-bandwidth or stop complaining. you can't have your cake and eat it too.
*idealistically, you could surmise that if everyone had equal bandwidth and shared all their torrents, that people would always max our their pipes; sadly, that is not an accurate reflection of reality. you could argue that, since a bandwidth-dissonance is inevitable, we could mollify the paupers by requiring low ratios... but that is contrary to what is fundamental to the spirit of torrenting - to seed back what you get.
Last edited by Skerven; 06-19-2008 at 11:10 PM.
BCG Owner
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wtf, bit strong and i dont agree with you one bit lol
Take me for example.
DL = 20 meg or about 1800KBs
UL = 756K or about 80KBs
and i get capped for 5 hours a day (even though today its been about 10 hours and its pissing me off) to
5 MBS dl
25KBs upload.
So i download a 7 gig file, i can download it in 30 minutes at my max speed, but to upload it i will have to wait 2 days at least, and thats at my max speed throughout, take the fact of the SB users and after the 3 days lack of leechers on the torrents, i would struggle to get a 1 ratio.
Now that is through no fault of mine, its my stupid ISP, but it also does not mean im a "Fucking Leech" as you so eloquantly put it.
Persona non grata
I was assuming he wasn't being serious.
If you are Skerven then all I can say is that monk3y,dunson and myself are all on seedboxes and don't share your limited viewpoint.
But then again maybe we're willing to consider other interests beside our own.
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