A Lady by the name of...

[devilsadvocate]

Obama has had his dirty laundry aired already It's been found he did nothing wrong with Rezko and as for Ayres just what did Obama do? He served on a committee that deals with helping the disadvantaged. Nowhere did Obama plot anything against America or have any connection with the weather underground. There is no there there, just ridiculous innuendo.

I mentioned McCain's close friendship with G Gordon Liddy in another thread. Is McCain for shooting federal agents in the head? Of course not, It's bullshit distractions to avoid talking issues.

Anyone that suggest we know nothing about Obama can't have been paying attention. We've had 18 months of in depth investigations, not just of Obama, but of his family, friends of his family, everyone he has met and those who have met people he met. We know how many times he goes to the toilet and how much the movement weighs and you complain about a couple of days of wondering who the hell this Palin woman is? Good God man.

Obama is who/what he says he is, which is why I'm not voting for him.

Palin has not been vetted and seeing as you started this thread about HER and not Obama, I am discussing her and the reaction to her nomination.

She has been introduced as a conservative reformer with impeccable ethics. So I think the cop thing needs looking into. This is something SHE may have done, not something someone she knows may have done.

In her acceptance speech she stated she told congress thanks but no thanks to the bridge to nowhere. Turns out she pushed to get federal funds restored after congress blocked them and stated she closed the project because the state representatives were unable to procure the funds, leaving them short a few hundred million. Does that sound like a fiscal conservative fighting earmarks?

When Obama proposed a windfall tax on the oil companies to pay for a fuel benefit or when the democrats proposed it to pay for alternative fuel research there was outrage from the republicans about wealth redistribution and accusations of socialism and Marxism. Palin actually did place a windfall tax on them and gave the money to Alaskan residents.

The religious right like her because she wants to ban abortion in all cases, no exceptions and she wants creationism taught in schools. She vetoed a same sex partner benefits bill as well (although apparently only because she was advised it may not be constitutional), So their issues are taken care of, apparently no further vetting is needed and no other issues matter.

[Skiz]

We'll just have to wait and see how this all plays out.

She does have experience as Governor of Alaska, a mayor, and legislator, even as a small state, I'm sure the education obtained is relatively high, which truth be told is more than Obama can say, and he's running for the office itself. A community organizer and one-term state assemblyman, and what, 140 days in Congress before he started his campaign for president? Is he more qualified than McCain's second seater? At least she will have the luxury of learning at McCain's side in the event something happens to McCain. But he's healthy and will probably have no problems during a four-year term of office. And I think she and her husband have more real-life experience than Obama does, as well as Biden.

[IdolEyes787]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E29UdRc2Xw8

Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College in Hilo, Hawaii, in 1982 for a semester, where she majored in Business Administration, and transferred in 1983 to North Idaho College.In 1987, Palin received a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho, where she also minored in political science. Palin briefly worked in broadcasting as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations and with her husband in commercial fishing.

Expound all you want about her relative experience and readiness to lead but N. Idaho College is a far cry from Havard.
And not just geographically.

[devilsadvocate]

I could be wrong here but I read Skizo's post as meaning the governing learning process, not academic education. I don't agree with him mind you.

At the moment she accepted the nomination all I knew about her is what she said about herself and how the campaign described her. To date apart from her proclaimed stance on social/cultural issues I haven't seen much that matches the reported reality of her record.

[j2k4]

Obama has had his dirty laundry aired already It's been found he did nothing wrong with Rezko and as for Ayres just what did Obama do? He served on a committee that deals with helping the disadvantaged. Nowhere did Obama plot anything against America or have any connection with the weather underground. There is no there there, just ridiculous innuendo.

Aired?

Bullshit.

Managed would be the word you're looking for.

You libs only yip this much when you've been jabbed stupid.

I mentioned McCain's close friendship with G Gordon Liddy in another thread. Is McCain for shooting federal agents in the head? Of course not, It's bullshit distractions to avoid talking issues.

Do you seriously propose to compare the two?

Liddy spouted for the CIA (to no avail) and then got caught doing a B & E.

Ayers went quite a bit further, I think you'll find.

Anyone that suggest we know nothing about Obama can't have been paying attention. We've had 18 months of in depth investigations, not just of Obama, but of his family, friends of his family, everyone he has met and those who have met people he met. We know how many times he goes to the toilet and how much the movement weighs and you complain about a couple of days of wondering who the hell this Palin woman is? Good God man.

Good God man:

Pray, how much does it weigh?

You're the first I've heard claiming to actually possess that knowledge, tho' I have heard he's been more constipated lately.

Obama is who/what he says he is, which is why I'm not voting for him.

You're fooling, right?

Palin has not been vetted and seeing as you started this thread about HER and not Obama, I am discussing her and the reaction to her nomination.

So I've noticed.

Whom have you been discussing it with, by the way.

She has been introduced as a conservative reformer with impeccable ethics. So I think the cop thing needs looking into. This is something SHE may have done, not something someone she knows may have done.

It's being investigated, as we speak, by the Alaskan authorities and others.

I'm sure they'd welcome your help.

In her acceptance speech she stated she told congress thanks but no thanks to the bridge to nowhere. Turns out she pushed to get federal funds restored after congress blocked them and stated she closed the project because the state representatives were unable to procure the funds, leaving them short a few hundred million. Does that sound like a fiscal conservative fighting earmarks?

Yes, in fact it does.

Certain tactics work more quickly than others, truth.

You really don't understand that, do you.

The Bridge to Nowhere was a part of another bill; she was seeking to restore the "non-bridge" section, leaving the "bridge" to die of lack of funding, the state (infinitely wiser in refusing to fund it) being the only alternative, and therefore putting an end to it's consideration.

When Obama proposed a windfall tax on the oil companies to pay for a fuel benefit or when the democrats proposed it to pay for alternative fuel research there was outrage from the republicans about wealth redistribution and accusations of socialism and Marxism. Palin actually did place a windfall tax on them and gave the money to Alaskan residents.

That kinda depends on what you call it.

Ffs, I normally find Wikipedia incredibly wanting in most circumstances, but it will work splendidly for this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_...nd_Corporation

Funded by state oil taxes to ensure the security of future generations of Alaskans, and administered by a semi-private corporation.

What is there for one such as yourself to complain about.

The religious right like her because she wants to ban abortion in all cases, no exceptions and she wants creationism taught in schools. She vetoed a same sex partner benefits bill as well (although apparently only because she was advised it may not be constitutional), So their issues are taken care of, apparently no further vetting is needed and no other issues matter.

This complaint always kills me.

Pray tell, what does the religious left have to say.

We'll just have to wait and see how this all plays out.

She does have experience as Governor of Alaska, a mayor, and legislator, even as a small state, I'm sure the education obtained is relatively high, which truth be told is more than Obama can say, and he's running for the office itself. A community organizer and one-term state assemblyman, and what, 140 days in Congress before he started his campaign for president? Is he more qualified than McCain's second seater? At least she will have the luxury of learning at McCain's side in the event something happens to McCain. But he's healthy and will probably have no problems during a four-year term of office. And I think she and her husband have more real-life experience than Obama does, as well as Biden.

I could be wrong here but I read Skizo's post as meaning the governing learning process, not academic education. I don't agree with him mind you.

Yes, be perfectly clear; you wish to distance yourself from that dastardly conservative baby-eating bastard.

At the moment she accepted the nomination all I knew about her is what she said about herself and how the campaign described her. To date apart from her proclaimed stance on social/cultural issues I haven't seen much that matches the reported reality of her record.

That's 'cuz you only subscribe to liberal sources.

Now, if you quote this and start with the red type again, I quit.

Come up with something original.

Objection on principle, for example.

[clocker]

Well, this just got a lot more interesting.

Palin announces her 17 year old daughter is pregnant.
I can only imagine the awkward position this puts Rove/Limbaugh et al. into.
Had Chelsea Clinton done this, the response from the right would have been a bloodfeast.

[j2k4]

Well, this just got a lot more interesting.

Palin announces her 17 year old daughter is pregnant.
I can only imagine the awkward position this puts Rove/Limbaugh et al. into.
Had Chelsea Clinton done this, the response from the right would have been a bloodfeast.

You've got that ass-backwards.

The smart liberal press will ignore it or treat it properly.

The dumb liberal press will provide entertainment for us all.

The conservative press (WSJ, Washington Times, talk radio, all three) will be circumspect in it's coverage.

As to Chelsea, she'd have had an abortion, and no one would have ever known.

stupid forum

Have to give you that one.

[IdolEyes787]

Well, this just got a lot more interesting.

Palin announces her 17 year old daughter is pregnant.

And she's apparently going to wed the father.

Good thinking,that will work.

Although abortion may be wrong I guess they have no problem with sham weddings,loveless marriages and the inevitable divorcing of father Jethro.

[clocker]

The conservative press (WSJ, Washington Times, talk radio, all three) will be circumspect in it's coverage.

Yeah, talk radio is always circumspect.

I'm guessing Palin will remove herself from the ticket.

[j2k4]

The conservative press (WSJ, Washington Times, talk radio, all three) will be circumspect in it's coverage.

Yeah, talk radio is always circumspect.

I'm guessing Palin will remove herself from the ticket.

Nope.

Won't happen.

She's in solid, and that just cements it.

Let's just see the lib press go toe-to-toe with Mom, the VP candidate.