almost 1 year ago , waffles has a rule says : Never forget 23/10/2007
what.cd also has somthing like dont forgot oink
now, after 1 year nothing on the home page of what.cd or waffle about Oink
also the Never forget 23/10/2007 on waffles is now forgotten.
PS. what.cd + waffles would never existe if oink is not down