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    Originally posted by Biggles@23 September 2003 - 14:22


    I am not familar with large American cars as they only seem to be sold in the US but from what I have seen on TV they lack the grace of a Lexus, BMW, Jaguar or a Mercedes. These cars are not small eco - prams but extremely fast luxurious status symbols - yet they all are capable of returning a decent mpg.
    Biggles,

    1) We aren't really talking about cars here, no one in their right mind buys large American cars anymore. We are referring to SUVs and Trucks which, by legal fiat, do not have to meet the same emissions, fuel mileage and safety standards as cars. Hence their popularity amongst manufacturers, huge profits and very little technological investment.

    2) In my area, high end foreign brands such as you name, are the norm rather than the exception. That is, for people who drive cars. Your mileage estimates are a bit off however. Perhaps because of our laws, the big Mercedes and Jags pay a penalty because of substandard fuel mileage.

    Of course, if you can afford the car the extra bit of tax is no big worry.
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    I agree with Clocko here, there is no such thing as an economical Jag, only more economical then the one before. Does the world really need these big luxury cars? Seems to me that if 99.99% of the world can do without them, they can't be much of a necessity.



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    Originally posted by Billy_Dean@24 September 2003 - 23:18
    I agree with Clocko here, there is no such thing as an economical Jag, only more economical then the one before.


    Gotta disagree a bit here, Billy ( no real surprise,eh?).

    The early XKs, 120-150 and the E-Type are not that bad economy-wise. Mainly because they hardly ever run.

    In America cars aren't about need anyway.
    They are all about want...
    Otherwise we'd all be driving Civics and Tercels.
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    Sorry - got the wrong end of the stick. Likewise, apologies if I sounded pro Jag etc., I drive a Nissan and am very fond of it - especially its frugality.

    I can't understand the fascination for SUVs either. They are inefficient, impossible to fit in a supermarket car slot and corner like a drunken pig. There seems to be a minor trend towards them here too although most are diesel and sound like school buses - which seems to be their primary function in life anyway.

    Over here petrol costs about $4.50 a gallon. Farmers get red diesel - that is, diesel with a red dye through it to show it is tax free. Given the price of fuel here there is a real emphasis on getting maximum mpg from an engine - surprisingly this does not seem to affect performance in the slightest - cars have never been faster or more reliable - (not counting the Fiat I used to have which was fast, but only if it started ).
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    How much does that Spitfire use?
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    It is hard to get fuel for that these days - it runs on Jingo. Fortunately, Tony has started a new line in it so I should be airborne again soon.
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    the E-Type



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    Oh yes indeedy




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    Or the F Type...





    Wonder if i'll ever win the lottery :'(

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