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    How about a heatsink carved from dry ice (solid C02).
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    water cooling is always coming closer to most users.
    Livy, I don't think that water cooling is really all that practical for the average home user. Outside of the fact that you have to monitor and replenish the H2O level, a radiant heat disperser is not terribly efficient beyond ambient room temp. Unless the whole system is dramatically improved from what I've seen available ( and it could be done certainly) then I don't think so...

    How about a heatsink carved from dry ice (solid C02).
    lynx, didn't someone post pics of just this- done by some Finnish overclockers?
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    I have a feeling that you would have to replace dry ice at a much faster rate than water in a water-cooled system. In any case, a properly designed liguid cooled system (not necessarily water) should not need 'topping up', since it should not leak.

    In any case, it is unlikely that you would want to cool the processor below ambient temperature because of the possibility of condensation, which is often a problem when using peltier-effect devices.

    Most liquid-cooled systems fail simply because they do not have sufficient mass in the heatsink, which results in rapid temperature changes when the pump/water-level fails. If the heat sink is large enough, temperature rises can be detected and the system shut off long before permanent damage occurs. In any case, a failsafe system would have a both coolant-level and flow warnings built in.

    I think this is largely irrelevant for the board users, the implication is that these chip-to-chip connections are going to be for super-computers with massively parallel processor arrays, not home pc's.
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    even water in room temp has excellent heat capacity (something like it takes 1000+ joles of energy to raise the temp of 1 liter of water 1 degree celcius)

    so even if you system is somewhere like 40-50 degrees, water can bring it down to near room temp if there is enough water.

    the problem is how to get the water to recycle the heat, get the heat out.

  5. Software & Hardware   -   #15
    Unless someone comes up with something bettter fast, then water cooling is IMO definitely the next step, as lynx pointed out you don't have to cool below ambient temp, the point is to conduct any heat above ambient away quickly, and even though water is not that great a conductor it is significantly better than air. The higher density of water means that moving water can dissipate heat very quickly, and then the water can be pumped to a much larger heatsink than would be possible on a processor. I think the problems gonna be how do we cool our rooms

    james_bond_rulez if i remember well I think the specific heat capacity of water is 4200 J/kg/C , water's very high shc is one of the factors in its favour in cooling.

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