Read previous comments about banning a staff account. It's a hollow gesture.
Read previous comments about banning a staff account. It's a hollow gesture.
Wow, there's a lot of legal experts in this thread ROFL. DWCreeper167, your username seems pretty appropriate now. The creepy way you've continued to handled this situation makes you a creep. I understand though, your still pissed off they demoted you from staff before this happened and you were just dieing for an excuse to act out your grudge.
While the rest of you white knight and sit on your high horses passing judgment, I'm going to continue using and enjoying the best movie tracker online. To some of you asking for PTP to delete your accounts - I'm sure they won't miss you that much. Aristocles I've seen your stats there. 100gb uploaded doesn't exactly make you an irreplaceable user.
Deal with spektormax and leave the rest of this drama out of bittorrent. The most this is going to do is lead to lots of traffic for Backie's blog. I'm sure he loves this shit.
@heyjoe1: you only joined today just to make that post. Reading your post and how you attacked the OP, you look like another PTP staff under a random nick. are you kate128? 312c? nnnnnn?
Grow up, PTP staff, and open your eyes to the current situation. you don't seem to realize how serious this is. you're either only children or just plain stupid.
From what I understand from the pastebin convo between ExodusSquared and Azazel ( http://pastebin.org/130868 ), ExodusSquared is finally trying to do the right thing by reporting Spektormax and giving out his details to authorities. But before you do so, I believe for the safety of PTP members, the site should be closed indefinitely.
After reporting Spektormax, the investigation will lead to the following:
* where were child porn link distributed? in a Skype convo, with 4 other people.
* how are these people related to the offender? they are all staff at PassThePopcorn.org
* Is it a possibility that PassThePopcorn.org is a front for underground child porn distribution? ...Most definitely.
PTP will be held under investigation... from the authorities' point of view, if child porn was distributed in a convo between 4 staff of PTP, similiar activites are most definitely occuring in say a private forum for staff on PassThePopcorn (ie: the staff forum).
We've all seen child porn pics being shared in the convo between PTP staff... We've all seen that absolutly nothing was done about it. We've all seen that Jeremy/jerrcs/z proceeded in posting links 5 minutes after child porn was posted as if nothing happened. We've all seen PTP staff defending Spektormax's actions and saying he's done nothing wrong.....
I'm sorry but because of all of this, I'm inclined to believe that child porn links are being distributed in PassThePopcorn's private staff forum. At least that's the conclusion the feds are going to come to.
eXodusSquared, if you really want to do the right thing, for the sake of safety of PTP members, shut down PassThePopcorn and delete all of its database immediately.
Glados,
I'm getting sick and tired of hearing your demands to banish PTP from the tracker world. Your only objective and motive is clearly to see PTP's demise.
I've been with the tracker for several months, and have been active on their IRC channel. For anybody that has used PTP, it's not only a great resource, but an awesome community. Sure they might be going through some tough times at the moment, but as long as this witch-hunt directed towards PTP stops, then things will be fine. Why must you take it out on the rest of the PTP community/site/tracker, when it didn't even have anything to do with PTP, besides the circumstances that some staff members of PTP who had no idea of the actions of another EX - staff member who they befriended. Spektormax, wasn't even on IRC chat, back 2 weeks ago, and just sort of popped in. I'm 100% positive that if PTP staff were knowledgeable that CP links were being posted, they wouldn't of clicked on any of the links. I've been talking with several of them over the last few months, and they just don't seem the type that would be into that sort of thing. (not many people are) It's quite clear, that PTP has wanted to distance themselves from this, and want nothing to do with spektormax, and the only way that PTP can successfully distance themselves from him, is by not continuously trying to link PTP back to spektormax.
Why are you trying to single out one rogue incident, and splashing it about, as though PTP distributes child-porn. Why don't you look at your statement, and realize what the majority of others most probably have concluded. PTP has been around for quite awhile, and ONLY distributes legal movies. Hell, they even state in their rules that there is no porn to be on the site. So where the hell do you get off, spewing your ridiculous, bullshit claims? All you keep doing is, reminding people of the same points, over and over again (adding biased "facts" along the way)
You are being counter-productive to what really SHOULD be happening. Your target is spektormax, not PTP. Some initial statements made by staff were kind of inappropriate (defending spektormax at the time[but really what would you expect, since he was a founder]) but they have gone through, banned any accounts he has, and said he wouldn't be back to PTP. Let's all move on from what was said by PTP staff members, as this is not the case now.
The proper thing that should happen, is that spektormax's information get released privately to the right people who can take action on his misdeeds. Then this thread should be closed, so we don't have a vulnerability to PTP or any other tracker that might be affected.
My 2 cents.
Last edited by mayoko; 04-02-2010 at 07:15 PM.
No I'm not staff at PTP. And it looks like you created your nick just to post in this thread too. Only 7 posts
Seems you have a personal beef with them that goes beyond this issue. Calling them stupid children. Name calling isn't very grownup either.
Yeah I'm sure they will just close PTP after the years of hard work they put into it .
Child porn wasn't distributed. It looks like one sick FORMER-staff posted a link and was immediately reprimanded for it. That's not exactly distributing it. In fact, that Creeper guy came closer to distributing child porn by making the OP here and posting the links in that post.
They aren't that related. You said they are all staff. Wrong. Spektormax hasn't been staff there in months, and now he's banned there. The rest of the people in the conversation were CURRENT staff.
Some of you people are soooo delusional it's beyond stupid.
Again, it doesn't sound like it was distributed moron. Your trying to take something and make it into something it's not. And I'm really sure they're sharing child porn in their staff forum . Saying outlandish things like that just makes you look even less credible. Who the hell are you anyways? Are you staff there or anywhere else for that matter? No, your just some nobody jumping to crazy conclusions. How about using some common sense.
They didn't defend him, they banned him. They have nothing to do with him now. Have you even read their posts in this thread.
Last edited by heyjoe1; 04-02-2010 at 06:18 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I said I wouldn't respond here anymore but listen up, troglodyte:
I never claimed to be an irreplaceable user not even a valued user, troglodyte. I made a call based on my own beliefs, troglodyte. I left, troglodyte. Clear, troglodyte?
I hope this has been an edifying post for you.
Two posts here and the second (edit: first) one is this opus. It's getting difficult to keep track of the trolls here.
OK, sorry about replying here again, carry on. . .
Last edited by Aristocles; 04-02-2010 at 07:14 PM.
I've been a member here for a while. Always lurking and reading, never had anything interesting to post until I saw this thread. You joined just today to post here, and have attacked the OP in a similiar manner that PTP staff did... which led me to believe that you are in fact one of them.
yes it was. I'm not going to waste time to argue about that fact.
Kindly read the posts made by 312c and nnnnnn (both PTP staff) in this thread. There were clearly defending spektormax and saying he has done nothing wrong and/or illegal. Also, note previous posts that "disabling" a staff's account is just for show. Staff do indeed have many accounts, and due to his involvement as a founder for the site, he probably still has server access. TehMeph has already clearly pointed that out:
"And finally, about spektormax's "disabling" at PtP. I can think of exactly 0 staff members on ANY tracker that have but one single account. There are too many logistic and entertaining reasons to have several, so disabling the accoung with the name spektormax will accomplish nothing other than to save face with those dumb enough to let the wool be pulled over their eyes. Furthermore, as a founder that has spent serious time with the site since before the site was born, he's guaranteed to continue to have server access. I know for sure that pham still does, and he voluntarily left the organization a long time ago. Spektormax's banning is nothing more than a weak attempt to save face by a group of children that are too cowardly to do the right thing in this dire situation."
What makes you so sure? look at the screenshot, they continued sharing links even after child porn was posted, as if nothing happened! as if it was a normal act that has been done before... Also look at the screenshots of the convo between Azazel and ExodusSquared and z/jerrcs/jeremy after the links were posted, both of the current staff acted like it's no big deal at all... what does that tell you about them?
Not really, they only chose to act against him after the attention this thread has brought to the situation. I can assure, if the OP did not mention anything, nothing would have happened regarding Spektormax. (as seen in the irc queries screenshots).
I've seen child porn being casually distributed in a private convo between staff of that site... what makes you so sure that child porn is not also being distributed in their private staff irc channel or forum?
I'm not adding any biased facts... I'm not even a member at PTP, and have no reason to be "biased". I'm only responding to the presented evidence. The PTP staff members in that Skype convo were there to discuss site related matter (something about transferring to Gazelle RC2)... Child porn links were being distributed in that convo (in which, again, the staff involved in that convo did nothing about it, rather they kept sharing links). How is that not PTP related?
Targeting Spektormax will inevitably lead to PTP. You guys seem to forget (or rather ignore) that Spektormax and PTP are (or at least were) heavily related. Keep in mind that since he was involved in child porn distribution, all of his internet activity in the past will be closely inspected. This will involve PassThePopcorn (which he is/was the founder of)... Also ExodusSquared, the current sysop of PTP said himself that NOW after all the attention he has decided to report him; afterwhich ptp WILL be raided. Protecting the members of that site is my only concern. Which is why I was saying that closing down the site would be the best choice of action in such situation. Please prove me wrong.
Last edited by glados; 04-02-2010 at 08:50 PM.
Delicious CP!
Kudos to Azazel for providing e-drama.
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