PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn

[Kate28]

This is not related to PTP as a sight by any means, it was a despicable action by a rogue member.
Continuing this in the immature, playground manner that Azazel is doing is beyond some righteous vigilantism that he is so fond of. It's pathetic. And you need to stop.

Spektormax has been both disabled and demoted and he will not partake in any aspect of PTP now or ever. We are NOT condoning his activity, not participating, not involved with it.

Azazel is blind with his vendetta against the site and is manipulating the story anyway he can. He wasn't in the voice chat, he did not hear them reprimanding spek. To take it to this level and insinuate it has happened before is downright obnoxious and nothing more than a smear campaign from someone who has too much time on their hands and puts too much stock into himself.

This is NOT related to PTP by any means. The user has been dealt with and all association has been broken.

[BasementWayne]

FYI, spektormax's account was banned a few hours ago.

[deependx]

Also keep in mind that the child porn links he posted were made in a convo with 2 current sysops on ptp... I'm starting to think those guys are in collaboration with these activities. God knows how many times ptp staff/sysops/founders/etc have shared such links with each other in previous convos.

None of the staff at PassThePopcorn are affiliated with any activities involving underage pornographic photos. Spektormax is NOT active and had not been for a long time. As you see his class is founder and is not found on the Staff page. The staff at PTP got caught off guard by spektormax posting illegal photos off of 510. He was told to stop. Azazel could NOT hear the audio conversation between us and he took this out of context because we were obviously talking and not typing. He was in the chat, saw the photos and once again is trying to link shady activity with another tracker. Did any of you hear about his plans to f**k over BroadcastTheNet after they demoted and banned him??? Azazel is trying to put a bad rep on PTP because he does not get along with the community and was kicked off of staff.

I want to stress PassThePopcorn's staff & Sysops do not condone or have any interest in child porn. We are very disgusted by spektormax's activity's and have nothing to do with him anymore. PassThePopcorn has never been involved with child porn and we do not share these links, in fact we stay away from this material.

This is solely an act of Spektomax and not PassThePopcorn or its Sysops, or anyone else involved in thet skype call. Azazel is as guilty as we are for clicking those links.

PTP is a clean community, we do not even allow any adult material on the site via avatar, profile images, forums and anywhere else its possible to post adult material.

So get pissed off at Spektormax and no one else. He is obviously sick in the head and everyone told him to stop and go away.

[312c]

Short intro: I'm lower level staff on PTP, and although I and azazel have had our differences in the past, I cannot believe he would stoop so low as this.

so did the person posting child pron get banned?

Of course not. He's the *FOUNDER* of the site...
Seriously, it would be pretty damn stupid for members to stay on passthepopcorn if the site founder is into childporn...

1) He has actually been banned
2) What does it matter to the members what one of the founders who has not been active on the site in months likes to do in his spare time? Answer: It doesn't affect them at all

Also keep in mind that the child porn links he posted were made in a convo with 2 current sysops on ptp... I'm starting to think those guys are in collaboration with these activities. God knows how many times ptp staff/sysops/founders/etc have shared such links with each other in previous convos.

These accusations are completely unfounded and I am offended that you would even say such a thing without a shred of proof.

The smart thing for anyone to do is stay clear from PassThePopcorn. The site is clearly being run by people into child porn. Staying on that site would be pretty stupid. Leave PtP ASAP.

As I have already said, how does a single person's actions that the entire staff of PTP looks down upon have any sort of influence on PTP?

All I have to say to current PTP staff..... Your lower than shit for supporting a site that tolerates child pornography.

PTP gives a bad name to pirating, and I am ashamed of their refusal to take any action against the founder.

1) We do not support 510chan or spektormax's actions at all and there is absolutely no basis for such an accusation.
2) I'm hardly one of the ones that is "lower than shit," since I'm not one of the 1-post-count-probable-sock-puppets jumping on azazel's bandwagon
3) We have taken actions

Azazel if you are reading this, know that you have made many people that once thought of you as a friend utterly despise you now. SpektorMax posted a few links in a private Skype conversation (note: no link to the site other than the fact that the people in the conversation met on PTP). As I know you do not live in the USA you may not be aware of how exactly CP laws here operate. Nothing SpektorMax did in that Skype conversation was illegal, and there is no basis to report him to the FBI despite the fact that the entire reason you are running this smear campaign is because z and exodussquard took no action, when there is no action that they could have taken except to report the images to teh staff of 510chan. The mere act of viewing a link on the internet that happens to be CP is not illegal, saving it to your hard drive is (your browser's caching feature is excluded from counting as saving the image, since that is not the user himself/herself saving the image). While I agree that what SpektorMax did is disgusting, there is no legal actions that you, z, or exodusSquared could have could have had launched against SpektorMax. The only person that could possibly have been legally sought after would be the person who originally uploaded the images to 510chan. Additionally, you would have had to have clicked the links to know that they were CP, which in turn makes you just as guilty as SpektorMax. If any federal agency were to look into this issue, you (Azazel) would in fact be the one that has attempted to distribute the links to far more than the 3 people in the Skype conversation by posting here.

Just because you have an issue with 1 member of our site gives you no right to take it out on the 18 staff members and 15,081 members of our site. Karma is a bitch and I seriously hope you get what's coming for you.

[glados]

I don't care about Azazel and who he is and what he was and why he's doing it or whatever. don't even care if the guy in question was banned/demoted.

I'm just responding with respect to the presented facts. Who presented them and why he did so is irrelevant.

The way I see it, the *founder* of PassThePopcorn is into child porn... Whether PTP staff are related to these activities or not, it doesn't matter... If the founder of the site was found to practice such disgusting activities, then the best choice of action for the members of the site is to leave and stay clear.

Spektormax may be arrested for such activities, and his site, PassThePopcorn, will be put at risk. If he was arrested, the investigation might even consider PassThePopcorn to be a front for child porn distribution (since the links were shared with sysops/staff of the site).

The outcome of this whole incident is: PassThePopcorn (PtP) is currently insecure due to child porn activities of their founder. Try to defend the site all you want; it will get you nowhere.

[mrnobody]

1) He has actually been banned
http://i.imgur.com/KYIAf.png

good to know. and he should be banned from other sites too imo.

2) What does it matter to the members what one of the founders who has not been active on the site in months likes to do in his spare time? Answer: It doesn't affect them at all

We'll i'm not in your site and it still left a bad taste in my mouth. It's one thing if one of the member is involved into stuff like this but it's totally different when it is a staff, even worse a founder.

I realize there is no way you would have known he was mentally sick or whatever. All i'm saying is it left a bad taste...and i suppose it does matter what a founder (and ex-founders) of a site "likes to do in his spare time", in particularly when it comes to serious+sick+massive.legal.risk issue like this one.

[Kate28]

I don't care about Azazel and who he is and what he was and why he's doing it or whatever. don't even care if the guy in question was banned/demoted.

I'm just responding with respect to the presented facts. Who presented them and why he did so is irrelevant.

The way I see it, the *founder* of PassThePopcorn is into child porn... Whether PTP staff are related to these activities or not, it doesn't matter... If the founder of the site was found to practice such disgusting activities, then the best choice of action for the members of the site is to leave and stay clear.

Spektormax may be arrested for such activities, and his site, PassThePopcorn, will be put at risk. If he was arrested, the investigation might even consider PassThePopcorn to be a front for child porn distribution (since the links were shared with sysops/staff of the site).

The outcome of this whole incident is: PassThePopcorn (PtP) is currently insecure due to child porn activities of their founder. Try to defend the site all you want; it will get you nowhere.

This is just blowing it out of proportion. His role in the site is minimal and has been for months. It has NOTHING to do with PTP, we are not condoning it nor are we defending it.
The situation has been taken care of and his access to the site is removed completely. It has been dealt with.
To blame the site and it's staff is currently taking it a step too far and using it as a scapegoat. The site is not involved.
He has poor judgement skills that do not reflect onto the site. His actions are his own and we are not affiliated with them.
This needs to stop.

[mrnobody]

and i can see the staff notes.

was hoping for automerge :-\

[megabyteme]

The outcome of this whole incident is: PassThePopcorn (PtP) is currently insecure due to child porn activities of their founder. Try to defend the site all you want; it will get you nowhere.

You can make these grand standing statements, but in reality, there is little more reason to abandon use of PtP due to pedoMax's posting the links than there would be to abandon FST because Assel posted the same links on this site.

The thread starter deserves no applause, nor do any of the reflexive fear-mongers do in this thread. In addition, since they committed the same act, I would argue that the thread started be treated in exactly the same manner as pedoMax. They BOTH spread child porn- at least pedoMax kept it to a private channel and did not do so on a public forum.

Doing the wrong thing (under the guise of) righteousness is still reprehensible!

[312c]

I'm just responding with respect to the presented facts. Who presented them and why he did so is irrelevant.

You clearly ignored the facts in my previous post that there was and is no legal pathway to take against SpektorMax based upon his actions that this entire thread is about. Even though I agree that pedo's should be punished, there is nothing that any members of the Skype chat could have done.

The way I see it, the *founder* of PassThePopcorn is into child porn... Whether PTP staff are related to these activities or not, it doesn't matter... If the founder of the site was found to practice such disgusting activities, then the best choice of action for the members of the site is to leave and stay clear.

Key word there being founder, he hasn't been an active member of the site in months nor has he had any other ties to it in an even longer period of time. It does matter that the rest of the staff are not at all related to the activities, because that is exactly what azazel's smear campaign is trying to claim.

Spektormax may be arrested for such activities, and his site, PassThePopcorn, will be put at risk. If he was arrested, the investigation might even consider PassThePopcorn to be a front for child porn distribution (since the links were shared with sysops/staff of the site).

It is not his site and there is no reason it would be put at risk. All the forum, torrent comment, and pm logs of the site would clearly show that this is not true. The links were shared via a private, non-site related, Skype conversation, nothing related to the site.

The outcome of this whole incident is: PassThePopcorn (PtP) is currently insecure due to child porn activities of their founder. Try to defend the site all you want; it will get you nowhere.

The outcome of incident is that SpektorMax and Azazel were banned from the site. SpektorMax was banned as we all wish to have no association with him from now on, and Azazel was banned for purposely trying to undermine the entire site just because he is on a white-knighting rampage; A rampage that is primarily fueled by his anger that he was recently demoted from staff and past disagreements with staff members. Instead of talking reasonably to the people involved he has gone out of his way to trash talk the site every place possible, had a friend post spam messages in pre-channels that make outrageous claims ( "Sick.Fuckers.At.PassThePopcorn.Are.Into.Child.Porn", "Staff.At.PassThePopcorn.org.Are.Watching.Child.Porn", "Pham.Sends.Pictures.Of.His.NewBorn.To.SpektorMax.For.Money" ) claims that obviously are attempting to include all of the staff, and has blocked people from contacting him on skype/facebook to civilly discuss the matter.