no, it's me.
no, it's me.
whenever people agree with me, i always feel i must be wrong.
I tend to agree with you about the OP, I think his intention in including those links was clear enough and going on about that is a bit of a white elephant really.
However, I also think you, and some others, are going overboard here with linking PTP, as a site with x thousand members and probably more than a dozen staff (don't know or care, I have an account there but its hardly used and I'm not fussed about the place) to the actions of one individual. Which, despite all the prevarication, is what we're really talking about here.
Only the other couple of people involved on the voice side of the Skype convo actually know the whole context within which these images were linked from 4chan/wherever. Personally I don't find the explanation posted a couple of pages ago all that convincing, however I also don't find the idea of genuine pedophiles sharing their links during an unsecure group conversation any more convincing either. At best this individual is a pure idiot, at worst he's a complete scumbag, however its not really that suprising that his erstwhile friends and colleagues, who did know the full context and possibly know the individual personally, did not react at the time with the same outrage that everyone else informed of the partial story has
Nor is it all that surprising that some PTP members/staffers have kicked back against the OP of this thread, as he obviously does have some form of axe to grind against that site, evidenced even by the title of this thread. If one's concern is entirely to bring a potential pedophile to the attention of authorities etc, rather than making it about an entire internet site and its whole staff, then there are sgnificantly better ways to go about it than have been taken. Imo of course. The route that has been followed has allowed in many ways this discussion to become distracted and pushed those with potentially the most information etc into defending their site rather than looking at what is really important in this situation - whether someone is deliberately spreading illegal and disgusting material.
Just my 2 cents.
As I stated before, A founder directly reflects upon his assets.However, I also think you, and some others, are going overboard here with linking PTP, as a site with x thousand members and probably more than a dozen staff (don't know or care, I have an account there but its hardly used and I'm not fussed about the place) to the actions of one individual. Which, despite all the prevarication, is what we're really talking about here.
If Steve Jobs was found to be a pedophile, apple supporters would start to drop.
Same Situation (of course less assets) The founder of a tracker is a representative for the whole tracker. (his inactivity is irrelevant, if even true)
Last edited by Tv Controls you; 04-04-2010 at 04:09 AM.
Apple employs illegal workers that are under legal age to work, but that is another conversation lol.....but it wouldn't be fair. thousands people work for or thanks to apple. it's not like apple was just one man.
My point is a founder is a representative for the smaller people of a company/tracker/club/organization etc.
Last edited by Tv Controls you; 04-04-2010 at 04:15 AM.
Goddamnit. I told myself and everyone else that I would less this rest and not keep posting but seriously t0xik? Get your fucking facts straight.
I have NEVER been demoted from ANYWHERE. I've quit PTP twice and if you search the logs on the site you will see this "Azazel: class changed from Assistant Director to Legend by Azazel"
That is FACT and I dare any PTP staffer to come here and try to say otherwise. Same as on BTN, I quit there and PTP because I didn't like the way things were going and to repeat myself I have NEVER been forced out or demoted on ANYWHERE.
t0xic, you know damn well what IRC networks I am on right now and I'm beyond pissed that instead of speaking to me and asking me why I began this thread and others that you come on here at DAQ's request to trash my name.
Honestly I dare anyone to show me and the readers in this thread that I was demoted and didn't quit on my own terms or that other than PTP staffs inaction and nonchalant attitude that I have any grudge against PTP. This is just further proof of how PTP staff and others are trying to slander my name rather than deal with the facts in this thread.
Also, I mentioned the previous 4chan links, read my first post! It amazes me how some of you are twisting things and perverting the truth to try and play this down and cover up the facts.
FACTS:
Spektormax posted child porn links in a skype convo between PTP staff that were working on RC2. He even said in his BS statement that he had been working with Z for days regarding the conversion.
Spektormax was only banned AFTER all of this came to light and if this hadn't been made public, NOTHING would have been done. It takes less than a minute to ban accounts and the same amount of time to change server PW’s.
Spektormax has came on here with some bullshit lie about confirming links that Z told him about. Both PTP sysops deny this and it's in complete opposition than their previous statements.
PTP sysops present have stated this admitting that it was child porn and both admit that they did nothing AND that they carried on speaking and working with the pedophile afterwards.
PTP staff including NNNNNN and 312c have made it clear that in their opinion this pedophile has done nothing wrong according to the law and nothing wrong morally.
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Think what you want about me or my reasons behind this but I couldn't give 2 shits at this point. I've made this thread and others all with FACTS backing up my statements and statements of PTP staff in this thread and other places have only confirmed what I've already stated about what happened and their attitude.
A few people have done a great deal of work getting his personal info and I and another person has passed it along to every authority possible. I personally won't be releasing his info in this thread because then I could potentially be charged with a crime for doing so.
Someone will however.....I'm sure of it.
This entire thread has been about 1 thing. A PTP staffer posting child porn and other PTP staffers not caring and trying to cover it up. If my sole purpose was the hurt PTP alone then I would bring up more things which I hope I won't need to.
Leave me the fuck out of it. Ironic me asking for this considering I started this shit but I don't want my name to be an excuse on why we aren't talking about the true subject of this and the people involved.
Last edited by DWCreeper167; 04-04-2010 at 04:20 AM.
Dwcreeper edit it immediately....
We can't have this link to Bit torrent!! This is going to backfire on the BT community.
Holy shit man what are you doing???? If authorities get a hold of him, they will link him directly to PTP.
Last edited by Tv Controls you; 04-04-2010 at 04:27 AM.
On a second note. PTP should totally die.
Last edited by kavselj; 04-04-2010 at 04:33 AM. Reason: I changed my mind :<
Kav, you're a hero troll-gone-serious.
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