PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn

[Tv Controls you]

Way out of hand, and its been heading that way for some time.

As if a bittorrent forum on a file sharing discussion site is even remotely the right place for this to have been playing out in the first place

No you must have missed it...

He posted a full detailed account about spektormax.
It has address, license number, street address, full name, facebook, phone number

DWcreeper what are you thinking???? Do you really think authorities will only look into his child pornography problem? They will also look at his illegal downloads, and easily find out that he created a Private tracker.

[kavselj]

He does have certain traits of a pedophile, don't you all agree?

since when pedophiles have inherent traits?

Well I don't know, but if you look at his face... It has that clear "pedo smile". Like, right after hes done fapping to the pictures and he puts on the satisfactory smile saying "Hell yeah, another one bites the dust."

[DWCreeper167]

I posted no such thing.....no idea what you are talking about

[kavselj]

Hooray, lets all play the "I did no such thing" game \o/ I bet 10 dollars that Spektormax didn't even post any of that and Azazel simply photoshopped the pictures. The plot thickens and you just lost some more of your precious credibility.

[t0x]

So you think it is normal to post an lolpicture after someone posts some hard core child pornography?

I wouldn't say it's normal, no. However, we don't know the circumstances of when the person who linked that 4chan picture clicked the previous cp pictures. Now, correct me if I'm wrong... but Jeremy (referring to his Skype name) or z/jerrcs on PTP, said in his IRC convo to Azazel that [and I quote] "I didn't click them." Which makes me think he didn't even know what those pictures were when he linked that 4chan picture. The On A Soapbox blog still has the images up, so feel free to look at them to double check, but I don't believe he knew those were child porn pictures when he linked the 4chan image.

Wrong here. As anyone would, he wants to be seen as a non-pedophile. And, he also wants this discussion to end before he gets investigated.

Again, I don't see how he could be tracked down via an internet handle. But as I've stated before, it's not my area of expertise, so I'm not sure about anything to do with the legality of the issue. I'm positive if any PTP staff had information that would be relevant to the criminal investigation of a pedophile, they would turn that over. But until the police contact * and ask for information on * they shouldn't be smeared into handing out a former founder/staff members details, simply to please a bunch of people on a forum thread. That's utterly ridiculous.

This is rather at odds with your claim that you have no interest in the site. You obviously are much closer than most members PTP to actual staff at PTP or you are a member of staff.

I'm "e-friends" with several members of PTP. And no, I'm not staff. And I never said I had no interest in the site. It's an amazing site, with smart, friendly, dedicated people who help run it for the users of the site. I'm simply pointing out the inaccuracies in statements and the obvious motives behind some of them. I could care less what happens to Spek, honestly. I've never known the guy and I don't care too. But the other members of staff that you people are here accusing of protecting a pedophile are people who don't deserve that. So yes, I will stand up to that. You're putting pressure on a situation that grew from a mole hill into a mountain, over a very badly handled grudge-holding former-staff member.

The question PTP staff have to ask themselves is - how do they feel about explaining to the cops, their familys, girlfriends, boyfriends that they knew someone who had an interest in child porn and did nothing.

If/when they are put in that situation, I'm sure each one would handle it differently. If the cops interject and demand information from them, I'm sure they'd gladly hand that information over. However, slandering the site isn't going to help anyone, with anything. It's not going to force the admins/mods to release any information, it's not going to do anything but punish them for not dropping, someone who might not even be a pedophiles, dox online. Which is a criminal matter, mind you. So you're basically asking them to drop someones personal information, which IS a crime, for something that might not even be a crime? Someone please tell me what I missed there...

I got the same feeling while typing with him, he may even be Spektormax

I'm a woman. So, clearly not SpekTorMax. I'm sure a few of you are on private sites with me... I just simply used a shortened version of my nickname on here. Some people can figure it out if they speak to me regularly.

t0xic, you know damn well what IRC networks I am on right now and I'm beyond pissed that instead of speaking to me and asking me why I began this thread and others that you come on here at DAQ's request to trash my name.

I don't need to speak with you over the issue. You said everything you were gonna say in this thread, and the others you made. I'm not trying to smear your name, or anyone elses for that matter. I'm simply trying to get people to see that PTP has no involvement in this. Because it was a private conversation, had this happened in the PTP irc, or in their forums, then it would be a different story. The fact is this happened on a Skype call, and had it been an "official" PTP staff meeting or something like that, I'm sure you wouldn't have been invited. Simply because you were no longer staff at that point, and neither was SpekTorMax. You were there as a friend, and I'm assuming they didn't ask you to join in to help them code/brainstorm and get the site ready for RC2. You really have no idea what was said between them before, during, and after those links were posted. You're simply guessing based in the info you have, just like everyone else in this thread. The only people that know what happened, how it happened, and what was said/done about the issue are the people who could hear it on the call. I was also not asked by anyone to come on here. I noticed the link in one of my channel's and decided to read it. I created my first and only account here to state my opinion, just like everyone else is doing here.

Spektormax was only banned AFTER all of this came to light and if this hadn't been made public, NOTHING would have been done. It takes less than a minute to ban accounts and the same amount of time to change server PW’s.

And former founders can be banned by regular staff members? Such as mods/admins? I kinda highly doubt that. Server passwords are more than likely restricted to a select few people so it would make sense that it takes a few days to get those people on there (especially with pham and DAQ being gone lately) But I don't know how their system is setup, I'm simply making an educated guess on the situation.

A few people have done a great deal of work getting his personal info and I and another person has passed it along to every authority possible. I personally won't be releasing his info in this thread because then I could potentially be charged with a crime for doing so.

That's a good move if you seriously think he's a pedophile and dangerous to anyone. You know him better than I do, at this point. Also good move on not releasing his information to the masses, because that would get you in criminal trouble.

But since you're on here now, maybe you can explain why you took screenshots of the Skype conversation and IRC private messages if you didn't plan on starting some type of anti-PTP campaign? No one else seems to want to answer my questions...

[Quarterquack]

Azazel, I really don't understand you. You said you weren't doing it, you know the privacy laws. You said that you already gave it to the right authorities. And then you hand out his personal information in a casual "someone gave it to me, I don't know if it's true" attitude.

I hope you know what's coming to you, as we all know what goes around comes around in this upside down BT world.

EDIT: "Unknown paste ID, it may have expired or been deleted!" Good for you, ever think that by any chance, since our dear friend Max is only 20 years old that some rapist might show up to his doorstep soon? Or that phone number will get plastered over craigslist as a sex line, tonight? Did you even think through all of the things that can go wrong, when you did this to him, or where you out for a personal vendetta to harm him in anyway possible, then make yourself look honest?

If Max is a pedophile, then you're a scumbag for knowingly trying to harm him, in more ways than one.

[Tv Controls you]

This is out of our hands now....

This could escalate to any level in the hands of random people, and may make its way to the authorities.
If so what actions they take are unknown, but if they do follow up on him... They will find his association with PTP.

I'm getting my friends out of PTP within the week, as it may not be a safe site in a couple of months.

[cinephilia]

since when pedophiles have inherent traits?

Well I don't know, but if you look at his face... It has that clear "pedo smile". Like, right after hes done fapping to the pictures and he puts on the satisfactory smile saying "Hell yeah, another one bites the dust."

this kind of reasoning has sent innocents to jail.

ps: he miss big glasses

[kavselj]

Well I don't know, but if you look at his face... It has that clear "pedo smile". Like, right after hes done fapping to the pictures and he puts on the satisfactory smile saying "Hell yeah, another one bites the dust."

this kind of reasoning has sent innocents to jail.

ps: he miss big glasses

You're right. Considering that picture is supposedly SpektorMax's (thanks Azazel for providing it) I don't think anyone is gonna be bothered if he goes to jail

[MadIrish]

Way out of hand, and its been heading that way for some time.

As if a bittorrent forum on a file sharing discussion site is even remotely the right place for this to have been playing out in the first place

No you must have missed it...

He posted a full detailed account about spektormax.
It has address, license number, street address, full name, facebook, phone number

Yup. I caught that mate. As I said, WAY out of hand, but imo the way this discussion has been going I'm really not surprised something like this happened, it'd hardly be the first time in a BT-drama someone's info has been leaked. In fact, considering how petty the motives usually are, and the way people have been discussing this one, I'm just surprised its taken so long.

Really this whole thing is a lesson in how not to deal with stuff on t'internets, and very few people are going to come out of it looking at all good. PTP, the OP & co, and obviously this Spektormax person.

Its the regular, uninvolved users of PTP I feel sorry for now. And the kids in those pics obviously.