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    News post from their site for anyone that cares:

    Quote Originally Posted by PTP Staff
    Effective immediately, the movie tracker known as PassThePopcorn is using the domain passthepopcorn.me. Please ensure bookmarks and tracker urls are switched to the .me top level domain (TLD).

    For help changing torrent passkeys, click here.

    PASSTHEPOPCORN.ORG IS NOT TO BE USED, PLEASE DO NOT VISIT THIS SITE.

    This change is sudden, abrupt and we apologize. The current staff of PTP is operating on full disclosure on this matter and we are taking the time now to explain the events leading up to this moment in time.

    Since the site's birth, PTP has been plagued with instability and drama, something not unknown to the tracker community.

    This boils down to one person, the founder pham. Since creation, the site's servers have been in Pham's name, down to the IRC. Donations were controlled by him until recently. Because of this, any issue surrounding these areas of the site have been murky and met with ambiguous answers on the part of pham. Actions of all other staff could only be taken so far as pham had the final say. While shirking regular duties of a sysop, pham has used the site as his personal playground and piggy bank. Changes to policy, site structure, and code were made at the whim of pham, and more often than not, the staff figured this out the same time users did. This made managing the site very difficult as we always had someone working against our efforts.
    All of this uncertainty was commonplace for the staff at PTP until we thought we saw a light at the end of the tunnel.

    A news post made one month, two weeks ago said the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by pham
    Due to circumstances beyond my control within my personal life, I will, effective immediately, be stepping down as founder/sysop of Passthepopcorn, hereafter referred to as PTP. This was not discussed with our other staff. I feel I should not burden them with my personal life issues. My "step-down" was not discussed with my staff. I don't feel I have anything to discuss. The outcome is the same no matter what.

    The terms of my step down are not very clear. At this time, I consider it semi-permanent. I will still frequent the site and be the liaison for the server/domain ownership. I will not be answering PMs, visiting the forums, or other admin related tasks. Effectively immediately, I release my duties of SysOP into very capable hands.

    To the staff, its been a pleasure. Take care!

    -pham
    This blindsided staff but it was apparent from the start of this “new era”, that nothing had changed. Pham still held all the cards as far as servers,domain,and donations went. We were in the same position as before, only with pham using the site as his playground exaggerated.

    From the “official step-down” to now, an important fact became obvious. The other sysops never saw one donation log, and the donation goal on the site changed from week to week, this going on for months. Donation numbers were always vague, with strange events occurring such as the need to secure a panamanian bank account. There was a news post announcing it and a goal to the sum of 1.5 thousand dollars, rounded up to an even 2 thousand. Donations exceeded this number, but even with the goal met, the news was quickly brushed to the side and soon forgotten about. Questions asking where the money went were met with obscure answers and a change of subject.

    Staff could not investigate further and something similar happened weeks ago with a donation drive again announced by pham. Finally, a couple days ago, the worst we had feared was confirmed by none other than pham.

    Pham had been laundering donation money and using it for personal use. He was effectively stealing from the site, driving donations up just to use for his personal gain.

    When this knowledge became public to the staff, Z made actions to move away from PTP.org. A new server was bought, along with a development box, and donations were moved to a new secure account. Passthepopcorn.me was created for a development site, but because of recent events, the site had to be moved to Passthepopcorn.me.

    Staff was preparing for the worst, and unfortunately that became reality. It happened sooner than we had hoped and drastic measures were taken by both parties.

    Passthepopcorn.me is the new chapter of PTP, and is under new management, away from the instability pham brought. We are operating on full disclosure on this day forth and look forward to making PTP the best, most secure site imaginable.

    We apologize to our community about recent actions but we as staff have done everything in our power to prevent such a corrupt system once we could confirm said corruption.

    We do not want to be begging for money but as of current time we only have $200 USD available which will not be able to keep the site up for even another month. We need $450 USD to stay alive per month. Any donations are greatly appreciated. We love our community and want to keep the ball rolling.

    Sincerely,
    The PassThePopcorn Staff
    Last edited by ca_aok; 05-10-2010 at 01:28 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by whatcdfan View Post
    u are somewhat fairer then the last occasions but still pal i give a damn to what u said and expect i really dont need anything from u or optimuscrime i get what i want coz u 2 guyes dont own bittorrent and i dont think i portrayed any image i wrote simple english and u are seems to be very good at making assumptions if someone is not a cheater and u assume he's a cheater and write what u wrote and when u are proven wrong who u think will owe an apology then barack obama????

  2. BitTorrent   -   #32
    what is this site about ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by backie View Post

    Also the smart can steal small stuff in large amounts, such as the urban myth that someone coded a virus to steal 0.01 pence/cent off each bank transaction.
    Btw I'm still waiting for my bank to do something about that.

    Seriously though stealing small serially exponentially increases the risk of eventually being caught and ,although the chances might be slim,having all the thefts( a large amount so subsequently a large penalty) traced back to you.
    Respect my lack of authority.

  4. BitTorrent   -   #34
    Quote Originally Posted by backie View Post
    Also the smart can steal small stuff in large amounts, such as the urban myth that someone coded a virus to steal 0.01 pence/cent off each bank transaction.
    I dont think is an urban myth, it was a plot in a Superman movie done by a Richard Pryor character, LOL.

  5. BitTorrent   -   #35
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    Two posts in pham's PTP forum post history that are of note:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bioskaz View Post
    first off. what one staff member (even a retired one) does to staff does not reflect on all the other staffers.
    I feel sorry for all of those who have donated in the past few months,
    after all this drama i am sure a few people are going to leave the site but most of the rest will stay and it will remain a great site to download movies from, with the staffers that actually have been working hard on releasing rc2.

    For those who decide to stay, I will only say this. Pham was the only one of the top class staffers on ptp that i wasn't quite close to... I trust the 2 current sysopsa as well as the rest of staff and i'm sure this will never happen again.

    if you decide to leave, your loss.
    haha
    This has to be a joke. How can someone have the nerve to say something like this, when we just read some lines above that they were stealing donations.
    How can you say it's your loss not to continue on such a site, when some people have already been robbed? Are you drunk? Or are you simply stupid ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ca_aok View Post

    We do not want to be begging for money but as of current time we only have $200 USD available which will not be able to keep the site up for even another month. We need $450 USD to stay alive per month. Any donations are greatly appreciated. We love our community and want to keep the ball rolling.

    Sincerely,
    The PassThePopcorn Staff
    Great way to start a site, asking for money in the very first announcement.
    Where have we seen this recently?
    Last edited by Cabalo; 05-10-2010 at 02:28 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

  7. BitTorrent   -   #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalo View Post
    haha
    This has to be a joke. How can someone have the nerve to say something like this, when we just read some lines above that they were stealing donations.
    How can you say it's your loss not to continue on such a site, when some people have already been robbed? Are you drunk? Or are you simply stupid ?
    Pham might have been stealing donations, and as i said I wasn't close to pham, but i do trust the other staffers and I know they have nothing to do with the stealing as they had no access to the paypal account.


    what i'm saying is that ptp is one of the best movie trackers out there, and if you don't want to keep your account there, it's your loss. I can quote a fair number of people that haven't gotten access to ptp for various reasons and all of them say that they really miss ptp because they could get any film they wanted from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bioskaz View Post
    I can quote a fair number of people that haven't gotten access to ptp for various reasons and all of them say that they really miss ptp......
    You can't miss something you've never had.
    Respect my lack of authority.

  9. BitTorrent   -   #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by idoleyes787 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bioskaz View Post
    i can quote a fair number of people that haven't gotten access to ptp for various reasons and all of them say that they really miss ptp......
    you can't miss something you've never had.
    +1

  10. BitTorrent   -   #40
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bioskaz View Post
    I can quote a fair number of people that haven't gotten access to ptp for various reasons and all of them say that they really miss ptp......
    You can't miss something you've never had.
    i meant people who got disabled for various reasons...

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