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Thread: help needed - prosecution letter - UK

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    A filipino friend at work told me about a worrying letter he received yesterday. Apparently it was from a solicitor demanding £300 for downloading one mp3 via bit torrent. The track in question is Cascada - Pyromania

    £300 for one mp3!!!!! And the cost will increase if not paid!

    I've heard about cease and desist letters in the UK but never heard about individuals being sued directly from the record label!

    I believe the track was leaked in High quality before it's release, which could account for the record company's attack on people sharing this

    He said he uses Utorrent for downloading and BTJunkie for searching files

    So what should he do? Should he pay the fine? I cant find much info on wether this is real or a scam to give him advice!


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    If he pays them, he's the biggest sucker in the universe

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluju View Post
    If he pays them, he's the biggest sucker in the universe
    You're right. Hold off on the payment see where it goes. If he pays, he admits the piracy, if he fights back the fine would increase shyly, but it would be worth it never being held against him for the rest of his life.

    He would be stupid admitting guilt based on one letter. Have his lawyer investigate the method of investigation, the underlying laws, the methods of contact etc. Chances are, every legal case in the system has one hiccup, you find that, you're off and can't be prosecuted for it again. Ask OJ.
    Last edited by Quarterquack; 06-07-2010 at 09:11 AM.
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    What proof did they have that it was really him that had dl that mp3?
    How did they get his Ip from the Isp?

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    That serves him for downloading a shitty track

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMT View Post
    He said he uses Utorrent for downloading and BTJunkie for searching files
    Shouldn't have used public trackers.

    Tell him what ringhunter posted and make him use Grooveshark ripping for single tracks - streaming should be legal, and they have no means of knowing whether you've downloaded the streamed tracks to your hard drive.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."

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    never download unreleased materials from public trackers. infact, don't download them at all.

    as per the case, get a hold of lawyer?

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    A letter from a lawyer does not mean he has been sued. The amount demanded in the letter is not a fine, but what the right's holder would accept in settlement and in lieu of their bringing a court action.

    He can ignore the letters until he gets served with a summons to appear in court. Once an actual action is commenced, then he should definitely seek legal advice in real life. But until then, tell your friend not to allow a law firm to avoid the costs of litigation by sending threatening letters to compel him to pay anything voluntarily.

    They will probably not sue, because it would cost a few hundred quid for a solicitor to even show up in court, outweighing the benefits.
    Last edited by o__O; 06-07-2010 at 02:14 PM.

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    This is a fishing exercise. They will have no intention of going to court. All he has to do is deny that he has ever downloaded anything illegally and say that he shares the wifi connection with 10 other people....they don't know it's a load of bollocks.

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