Is what.cd an outdated torrent website?

[soulreaper]

Because unlike 0-day sites those 7 year old torrents are actually in demand when new leechers come looking for a certain album.

I hit Elite there on a crappy home connection in about 6 months through some hard work. It's not impossible.

Pay to leech is a terrible idea and destroys torrent retention, which is the entire point of the site.

And yes, the lower required ratio system is still in effect. 20GB of free music (quite a bit if you're grabbing MP3s) before you even have a required ratio, assuming you keep everything seeded. And a paltry ratio requirement afterwards.

Caaok I can't disagree with your points, they're totally on point. The problem I have is with your ideology of working hard on a torrent site. I find that thought disturbing. Why should you work hard on a torrent site? Think about that for a minute. Do you not see that there's something intrinsically wrong with that? I mean sure ok you do what they tell you to do and you get a ratio but at the end of the day we're all pirates leeching illegally. Tomorrow you get caught you'll be in jail and then you'll laugh about how serious you were. I don't think we should make a big deal about leeching freely. The whole point of torrenting is to get stuff for free and with ease. That's why people use torrent sites cause it's easy and you don't have to pay for it.

Don't you think there's something wrong with the system when you can't recommend a real life friend to what.cd given that it's the biggest music library on earth? If I invite someone and tell them how to keep a good ratio they'll think I'm crazy. What do you think about that?

Heck even waffles let you exchange points for freeleech or downloads, I wish what.cd let people buy tokens or implement some type of seed bonus system for those who just can't get any upload/upload too slow(like 100 mb/per month).

[tgp]

Why should you work hard on a torrent site? Think about that for a minute. Do you not see that there's something intrinsically wrong with that?

No, not at all. Keeps the bums out. Use your brain, have some dedication and you'll be alright. If you can't cope, tough shit.

[threelions00]

Sweet jesus. Stop ya moaning and move on to a different site. All sites have rules. Whatcd has rules. IPTorrent has rules. We don't all agree with how the sites are run so if we don't like it, then tough. Remember when you hit the sign up button? Pretty sure it had something like you accept the terms and conditions. Seriously, you are acting like an old dog that needs putting down to relieve you from your misery. So I think most will agree - you don't accept their system, then don't use their site. And as for all your 'hard' work…someone already suggested buying it instead.

[soulreaper]

Sweet jesus. Stop ya moaning and move on to a different site. All sites have rules. Whatcd has rules. IPTorrent has rules. We don't all agree with how the sites are run so if we don't like it, then tough. Remember when you hit the sign up button? Pretty sure it had something like you accept the terms and conditions. Seriously, you are acting like an old dog that needs putting down to relieve you from your misery. So I think most will agree - you don't accept their system, then don't use their site. And as for all your 'hard' work…someone already suggested buying it instead.

Using your own retarded logic I'm not forcing you to read my post, so why are you whining about my whining? Put me on ignore if it bugs you so much. As a member of what.cd I do feel the need to raise this issue that not just me but tons of their users are downright fed up of and the apathetic nature of their admins is worth bringing up because they stopped caring since they get their torrents whether their members are happy/not. It's a pathetic attitude to have and downright capitalistic. So they should probably stop being such hypocrites and stop telling us beautiful stories about giving back to the community because that is a big fat lie.

Why should you work hard on a torrent site? Think about that for a minute. Do you not see that there's something intrinsically wrong with that?

No, not at all. Keeps the bums out. Use your brain, have some dedication and you'll be alright. If you can't cope, tough shit.

LOL@dedication. No I don't need to dedicate myself to a friggin torrent site.Tough shit. And what exactly do you mean by using my brain? I'm talking about downloading from what.cd without worrying about your ratio which is nigh impossible unless you have a 100-200 gb buffer. It's a failed system when one user has 260 TBs on his account while others can't get 10 gigs to save their lives.

Didn't what.cd introduce some new ratio system a while back where as long as kept seeding your torrents the ratio requirements were lower? Is that still in effect?

Either way I really don't see the need for what.cd to be perfectly honest. Spotify pretty much satisfies all my needs in terms of music. For the small minority that still really cares about having pristine, locally stored flac rips of all their music, maybe they're willing to put up with all the hoops that what.cd forces you through.

Why not open up the site for pay to leech?

I don't think thats the right way to go about it for any site.

I think I'll have to get upto speed with Spotify since these stubborn what.cd admins will do nothing to fix their broken ratio system. Can you listen to any song of any artist or just popular tracks?

[smcewa11]

I dont get why you are not making your point on their site. They will tell you the same as us in that you like it or lump it.

There are scores of tactics/things you can do to boosts your ratio there but the problem is not them it is you because you want it all without doing anything in return.

As for all your seedbox envy, you can get one for yourself for under $10 a month then people can whine about you. You are already a fan of pay2leech so spending some cash should not be a problem for you. If they have a freeleech week get a seedbox for it and whore like a mofo, cost $5to $25 for a gb/sec box for a week and you will not have to worry about ratio again. No one elses ratio will be harmed by freeleech week seedbox frenzy.

Do what many others do and get as much as you can from sites other than what.

[tgp]

I'm talking about downloading from what.cd without worrying about your ratio which is nigh impossible unless you have a 100-200 gb buffer.

Just because you can't doesn't mean it's impossible. I have over 10GB buffer on a 100kBps ul line. Never worry about ratio. You have to put in some work, download strategically, seed 24/7. It's like the real world: if you don't work, you starve. Entitlement won't get you anything.

Spotify or a seedbox are probably more your style. You can try Spotify, Rhapsody and other streaming services for free for a month. They have bigger archives than any torrent site, but I still find them lacking in certain genres. The ease of use can hardly be topped though. I still use the free ads version of Spotify to check out albums.

[threelions00]

My retarded logic? Someone has to pity you. I class it as taking one for the team. You are the one blabbering like a baby on here. Your whining is actually quite funny. Like smcewa11 says, go and have it out with them! My point is that you should just move on mate. If they are not for you, then why bother going on about it? In many ways, I actually agree with you. And yes, the admins and owners have reached a point with their popularity that people will pay. I think they refer to that as a business. Yes, they may be selling out their users to make some dollar but welcome to the world. Torrenters are not exempt from this. How about you go off and find a site/app and then get back to us and turn this negative into a positive. Perhaps whatcd have done you a favour pushing you away from them. Anyways, people have offered sound advice to your needs so go with it and enjoy. Whatcd is not the only place out there! Good luck.

[soulreaper]

I'm talking about downloading from what.cd without worrying about your ratio which is nigh impossible unless you have a 100-200 gb buffer.

Just because you can't doesn't mean it's impossible. I have over 10GB buffer on a 100kBps ul line. Never worry about ratio. You have to put in some work, download strategically, seed 24/7. It's like the real world: if you don't work, you starve. Entitlement won't get you anything.

Spotify or a seedbox are probably more your style. You can try Spotify, Rhapsody and other streaming services for free for a month. They have bigger archives than any torrent site, but I still find them lacking in certain genres. The ease of use can hardly be topped though. I still use the free ads version of Spotify to check out albums.

Ok sounds good. I didn't give Spotify much thought cause of selection and couldn't get it on my ipod mini.

I dont get why you are not making your point on their site. They will tell you the same as us in that you like it or lump it.

There are scores of tactics/things you can do to boosts your ratio there but the problem is not them it is you because you want it all without doing anything in return.

As for all your seedbox envy, you can get one for yourself for under $10 a month then people can whine about you. You are already a fan of pay2leech so spending some cash should not be a problem for you. If they have a freeleech week get a seedbox for it and whore like a mofo, cost $5to $25 for a gb/sec box for a week and you will not have to worry about ratio again. No one elses ratio will be harmed by freeleech week seedbox frenzy.

Do what many others do and get as much as you can from sites other than what.

Thought seedboxes cost 40-50 bucks a month,didn't know you get one for 10

My retarded logic? Someone has to pity you. I class it as taking one for the team. You are the one blabbering like a baby on here. Your whining is actually quite funny. Like smcewa11 says, go and have it out with them! My point is that you should just move on mate. If they are not for you, then why bother going on about it? In many ways, I actually agree with you. And yes, the admins and owners have reached a point with their popularity that people will pay. I think they refer to that as a business. Yes, they may be selling out their users to make some dollar but welcome to the world. Torrenters are not exempt from this. How about you go off and find a site/app and then get back to us and turn this negative into a positive. Perhaps whatcd have done you a favour pushing you away from them. Anyways, people have offered sound advice to your needs so go with it and enjoy. Whatcd is not the only place out there! Good luck.

I know my views are kinda utopic and they need a bit of out of box thinking to process, but thx anyway.

[ca_aok]

Your views aren't utopic, they're irrational. The entire reason What.cd got to the place it is today is because of the difficulty seeding. It encourages both long term seeding and uploading every single random weird album possible, creating the largest music collection in a private tracker (Rutracker probably has more and it's probably a better site for someone with your ideals). Every single ratioless music tracker that's every been created has a terrible selection compared to What because there's nothing driving your average user to upload. This is fine for TV or movie sites because having a bot upload new scene rips suffices for content, but the music scene is much more selective in their releases.

I hit Elite there on a crappy home connection in about 6 months through some hard work.

Yes but enough about your mental problems.

What I really want to know is how can there be a post-Rock when there's still Rock?
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Really I'd be more curious about how you're pushing 25000 posts here and still haven't bashed your head through a wall yet

As for your question, clearly it's short for poster-rock. An obvious mistake

[soulreaper]

Interesting,caaok. So you don't think there's anything irrational about seeding a torrent for 2-3+ years? I'm curious to know how is this system of having a torrent seeded till the end of time(because afterall that's what you're looking for a torrent to be ALWAYS seeded regardless of how old it is) a functional/practical one? You do realize that is the fundamental drawback of the bittorrent protocol that you're trying to mitigate right? You're trying to mimic a filehosting service where files will ALWAYS be available on a torrent site? Isn't that irrational?

Why not just keep the torrents instead of deleting them when there are no seeds and request for a reseed? KG does it and it works just fine? So lets say a user wants a very old torrent and if it doesn't have a seed then he could just request for one and that notification could go to all those who downloaded that file. Not only will this take away the burden of seeding every file forever but it would also test who's genuinely in it to help out this thirsty user.

I got a reseed request at BCG and I pulled out the file from my external and helped this guy out. See how genuine a sharer I am,caaok?