Installing A New Cpu Chip.

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by Smurfette@6 February 2004 - 23:46

Why do you need to put paste on both the heatsink and the core? All that does is put twice as much on. The idea is to make the contact between heatsink and processor die better, not to add a layer between.

smurfette, what exactly do you think your doing when your adding any thermal paste.... Your adding a layer between, no matter how small u think it is, to help give fuller contact between the die and the heatsink. If he wants to put it on both surfaces, which is what I do, then let him do it. Any excess will squish out anyway.

Besdies, I smooth a bit on both ends to help ensure a flat contact surface on both sides to make a perfect heat transfer. Well, as close as perfect as possible.

[Smurfette]

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+7 February 2004 - 05:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 7 February 2004 - 05:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Smurfette@6 February 2004 - 23:46

Why do you need to put paste on both the heatsink and the core? All that does is put twice as much on. The idea is to make the contact between heatsink and processor die better, not to add a layer between.

smurfette, what exactly do you think your doing when your adding any thermal paste.... Your adding a layer between, no matter how small u think it is, to help give fuller contact between the die and the heatsink. If he wants to put it on both surfaces, which is what I do, then let him do it. Any excess will squish out anyway.

Besdies, I smooth a bit on both ends to help ensure a flat contact surface on both sides to make a perfect heat transfer. Well, as close as perfect as possible. [/b][/quote]
I can appreciate what you&#39;re saying, but if that was the case everyone would be putting the shit on with a ladle&#33;
The paste (or tab) is there to take up the miniscule airspace from imperfections between heatsink and die because it&#39;s the air that inhibits the heat transfer. If the die and heatsink could be made with a perfectly matched interface you wouldn&#39;t need compound, but that&#39;s not going to happen until the chip manufacturers build in the cooling solution.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Smurfette+7 February 2004 - 00:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Smurfette @ 7 February 2004 - 00:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@7 February 2004 - 05:07
<!--QuoteBegin-Smurfette

@6 February 2004 - 23:46

Why do you need to put paste on both the heatsink and the core? All that does is put twice as much on. The idea is to make the contact between heatsink and processor die better, not to add a layer between.

smurfette, what exactly do you think your doing when your adding any thermal paste.... Your adding a layer between, no matter how small u think it is, to help give fuller contact between the die and the heatsink. If he wants to put it on both surfaces, which is what I do, then let him do it. Any excess will squish out anyway.

Besdies, I smooth a bit on both ends to help ensure a flat contact surface on both sides to make a perfect heat transfer. Well, as close as perfect as possible.

I can appreciate what you&#39;re saying, but if that was the case everyone would be putting the shit on with a ladle&#33;
The paste (or tab) is there to take up the miniscule airspace from imperfections between heatsink and die because it&#39;s the air that inhibits the heat transfer. If the die and heatsink could be made with a perfectly matched interface you wouldn&#39;t need compound, but that&#39;s not going to happen until the chip manufacturers build in the cooling solution. [/b][/quote]
but your are stil adding a layer, no matter how thin it is (yes i understand what thermal compound does) it is adding a layer, a really thin layer, but it is a layer.

[atiVidia]

since this is the first time u r installing an AMD cpu, i recommend u order a CPU shim so ur chip doesnt crack while ur installing it...

[tesco]

os that what those things do? i thought they were for newbies who think they would cool their cpus then buy them and realize it goes around the core and not even touch it lol.

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@7 February 2004 - 00:32
os that what those things do? i thought they were for newbies who think they would cool their cpus then buy them and realize it goes around the core and not even touch it lol.

the CPU shim brings the level of the CPU outer edge up so that the core doesnt crack:

w/o shim:
________:----:________


with shim:
:--:_____:----:_____:--:

[tesco]

oh so do you recomend them? if i get more ram or something maybe i will pick one up too, i think i saw them for lie 3 bucks on tigerdirect.ca, is there really any point to it? i mean it wont break right?

[SciManAl]

They are usually good to have... especially if you have a heavy heatsink etc... it keeps them from rocking too... I would recomend it a few bucks that potentialy save your CPU... plus it can travel up the line with the proccesors... mainly a one fit all cinda deal...

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by SciManAl@7 February 2004 - 12:53
They are usually good to have... especially if you have a heavy heatsink etc... it keeps them from rocking too... I would recomend it a few bucks that potentialy save your CPU... plus it can travel up the line with the proccesors... mainly a one fit all cinda deal...

so long as the athlon XP line is out, yes, it will fit the aXPs

but once AMD kills the aXP and aMP lines, well...

[Cram]

Main prob here is thermal paste and AMD dont go, unless you no how to apply the stuff.
If you look at AMD site they recommend the thermal pad, simply because if you get that paste on the back of the CPU board it give&#39;s all sort&#39;s of problems
IE overheating , no boot , BOS and so on, i have been there (chucked XP 2000 in bin after new heatsink fitted no more work until next day mate told me this
clean of thermal grease brussel sprouts and cabbage from bin rescue) and it&#39;s still running perfect today in another PC.
you have not done this before i would recommend you follow the fitting instuctions from this thread but use a pad or if u insist on paste spread with your credit card nice and thin and hope you dont have to use it again.

Good luck