Us Gov.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by Arm@31 March 2004 - 06:03
Yeah Peace thank you for telling us the obvious.

And yes thank YOU smellyArmpit.

[j2k4]

I'm sure this has seen light here before, but it has relevance in this thread, so, once again, ladies and gentleman, Robin Williams!

THE ROBIN WILLIAMS PEACE PLAN

1. The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosovich and the rest of those good ol' boys: We will never "interfere" again.

2. We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the fence.

3. All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them.

4. All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5. No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" (for "deport") and it's back home baby.

6. The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy-wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7. Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8. If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them is stolen or given to the Army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9. Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10. All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The language we speak is ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE...

Now, ain't that a winner of a plan.

The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, "You want a piece of me?"

[J'Pol]

Now that's good.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by J'Pol@31 March 2004 - 11:50
Now that's good.

Not for nothing is he called a genius.

Frankly, I was a bit surprised (but pleased, nonetheless) he was the piece's author.

[Biggles]

J'Pol



Robin Williams has been stealing your ideas!

An outrage!

The economics of the piece is somewhat suspect but amusing nonetheless.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Biggles@31 March 2004 - 19:27
J'Pol



Robin Williams has been stealing your ideas!

An outrage!

The economics of the piece is somewhat suspect but amusing nonetheless.

Biggles

One becomes accustomed to the blatant plagiarism. The only really novel ideas from our colonial cousins are from George Santayana and Kurt Vonnegut. Let's be honest a Spaniard and a German by nature, who found themselves American through no fault of their own. Indeed I think Santayana was actually born in Spain, not sure about the greatest ever "American " author, I think his parents arrived in the USA prior to his birth.

Re the economics, Mr Williams uses a fair dose of comedic licence, the piece is none the worse for it. I am quite fond of his work, derivative as it may be.

May I provide a quote, for those not aware of Santayana's work :

"Before you contradict an old man, my fair friend, you should endeavor to understand him."

Fan-Tastic

[Alex H]

WOW!!!

(and that's from a foreigner)

We did try minding our business before WWII and BAM!!!...Pearl Harbor....the rise of Hitler.....

Unfortunately, if the US goes down, there will be much more anarchy than we create.

I'm not a foreigner, you are.

Incidentally I always thought that Pearl Harbour was an attack by the Japanese forces, one lives and learns. I also believed it to be after Hitler's major activities in Europe, again a teaching point for me.

From what you say one would be led to suspect that the USA only joined in when it was attacked, rather than supporting it's allies.

Who on earth would become involved in a war when they had not themselves been attacked, but a friend had. Who would display that sort of loyalty. [/QUOTE]
Uh no you are not from the US so I don't know where the smart assed remarks are from. Typical J'Polism.

Had the US been involved early Pearl Harbor might not have happened and neither the rise of Hitler....and who said those two were in chronological order anyway?

Yes, the US joined when they were attacked...but you already knew that. J'Polism at it's very best. Before that the had embargos on Japan.

Hey man, nice going. [/QUOTE]
Um, I think that J'Pol was pointing out that the attribute "foreigner" depends on where you are and where you come from. By calling him a foreigner you are implying that your audience you are speaking to is American, whereas it is really the wider the world. As J'Pol is a citizen if the world, but not of America, he is therefor not a foreigner.

And for the Americans who think their country joined WWII to stop the rise of Hitler: Hitler's "rise" was during the 1930s, where he spent a lot of time quietly slaughtering the Jews, talking over other countries and doing a great Anthony Robins impersonation on the German people. Joseph Kennedy, one of the architects behind the Munich Agreement ignored Hitler's blatant re-armament and agreed, with the British, not to bother him too much.

Until the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour, America was quite happy to sit back and watch the European conflict, safe in the knowledge that the Atlantic protected them from Nazi Germany's quest for total domination (and even more happy to sell essential supplies to France and Britian). With the Japaneese attack on Pearl Harbour (done primparily to thwart a potential objection to Japan expanding it's empire to China and the East Indies, and harming US interests), America realized that being cut off from their friends (allies is hardly appropriate) may not have been such a great thing after all, and so finally, after nearly a decade of Nazi brutality in Europe, America got off it's arse and started being a responsible member of the world community.

The only problem is they haven't stopped "taking an interest" in world affairs since then. When the US government isn't trying to dodge conflict (WWI & WWII) the're trying to de-stabilize other countries (like Veitnam and Nicaragua) or pushing "democracy" on counties that are doing quite well for themselves anyway, like Cuba, who has continued to demonstrate that communism CAN work, despite US efforts to show otherwise.

If the US did suddenly disapear up it's own arse, I think the world would (after the celebrations had died down) get on with their own problems and ignore the hole where the United States used to be. In much the same way that the US does now when they bomb and/or invade another country now.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Alex H@31 March 2004 - 23:01
...like Cuba, who has continued to demonstrate that communism CAN work, despite  US efforts to show otherwise.

STOP THE PRESSES!!

Communism is "working" in Cuba?

I can't believe you actually said that, Alex...

[Alex H]

Originally posted by j2k4+1 April 2004 - 05:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 1 April 2004 - 05:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Alex H@31 March 2004 - 23:01
...like Cuba, who has continued to demonstrate that communism CAN work, despite US efforts to show otherwise.

STOP THE PRESSES&#33;&#33;

Communism is "working" in Cuba?

I can&#39;t believe you actually said that, Alex... [/b][/quote]
Cuba is still there, right?

And the Cubans do not live in such abject poverty as the US governmen would like you to believe. They would be even better off if the US would trade with them, instead of getting pissed with Castro for not being assasinated and putting embargos on his cigars.

[j2k4]

Of course Cuba is still there; where would it go?

As far as things being better in Cuba than our government would have us believe, sorry-I don&#39;t buy it.

When the boat people are trying to go south from here instead of north from there, maybe, but certainly not &#39;til then, OK?

Everyone who trades with the U.S. does better, Alex.