Iraqi Abuse Photos Spark Shock

[Rat Faced]

Read it again...

An "investigation" was completed over 2 months ago.....

The Red Cross have been sending reports for over 9 months to the administration; including directly to Colin Powell...remember him?


Nothing happened (that means it was swept under the rug) until a public outcry...


The result.......... another investigation?


Which planet do you actually live on Hank?

[BigBank_Hank]

Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@7 May 2004 - 17:47
There's no doubt that there was some feet dragging.

I was glad today to see Secretary Rumsfeld today take full responsibility for this. At least the administration is holding people accountable for their actions.

This isn't the first Rumsfeld bumble. The whole post war mess is a result of he and his staff underestimating the resistance we would face. The thing is we can't just get rid of him in the middle of an ongoing war. If Rumsfeld goes it's most likely that other heads will roll in the Pentagon also, and in the middle of a war this would create chaos for battlefield commanders.

[Snee]

Originally posted by TROUBLE^MAKER@7 May 2004 - 23:58
Reminds me of a college fraternity.

Reminds me of an eyesore.

[scroff]

Well, as this is my first time here and thus, obviously my first post... I'll be gentle. B) I couldn't keep my yap shut on this topic, tho.

I see some people calling for Rumsfeld to be fired. My question is why stop there? Is it that people believe that Bush or Cheney didn't know this stuff was going on?

This stuff was reported last fall by Provost Marshall Donald Ryder, a Major General who reported that there were system wide problems. I guess Bush didn't see that report tho. I mean, what the heck, Rumsfeld admitted he didn't read the Taguba report, just "the summary". I guess he didn't think it was important enough to tell his boss about. In January, Brig. Gen. Karpinski was relieved of her duties at Abu Ghraib and suspended. Now, I'm pretty sure that when a Brigadier General is relieved of her duties it makes some waves, but I guess they didn't reach the White House.

ICRC reports it told Bremer about these kinds of problems a year ago. He, too, probably didn't think it was anything that needed to go to Bush.

Just a point on Rumsfeld going... this 'war' won't be over by next January, when the new administration takes over, and Rumsfeld won't remain, so what difference does it make if it's now or 8 months from now?

[Rat Faced]

Welcome Scroff, nice to see you again...

[scroff]

Thanks for the welcome!

[100%]

Western Consumerist War + Effects of Cheaper Technology

= Cameras

many of the army personel have a camera nowadays.......

Before they didn't

what happened before.........?

[lynx]

I read this comment the other day.

The US and UK administrations have expressed horror about the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. Yet they seem to see no problem with the thousands of dead innocent Iraqi civilians. What strange morals.

[MagicNakor]

"Trophy" photographs have been around since WWI. However, this is the first time these photographs have come out while the war is still going.

[100%]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@10 May 2004 - 01:47
"Trophy" photographs have been around since WWI. However, this is the first time these photographs have come out while the war is still going.

So Canon, Nikon etc can also be blamed and should Armies be prohibitted from having cameras

or

in relation to freedom of Speech

should we call

Every Person in the Army with a Camera............A Journalist????????????