Ati Schoolz Nvidia

[tesco]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@6 May 2004 - 21:40
Alright thanks

I cant wait for the cards to be in stores lol

ya, once they start to get some real benchmarks on all the cards, not stupid pictures of what resolution each card can run lol

[atiVidia]

http://www.pricewatch.com/1/37/6017-1.htm

have fun

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by atiVidia@6 May 2004 - 18:45
http://www.pricewatch.com/1/37/6017-1.htm

have fun

I am not upgrading until PCI Express is released!

see this!

[adamp2p]

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=1578&page=8



Benchmarks: Far Cry, Conclusions

DirectX 9.0b-compatible Graphics make Far Cry a true test of DX9 compatible videocards. Based on the CryENGINE, Far Cry boasts real-time editing, bump mapping, static lights, network system, integrated physics system, shaders, shadows, and a dynamic music system. In the absence of either DOOM III or Half-Life 2, Far Cry has quickly become a single-player hit. Not only does it feature immersive graphics, but its story is actually somewhat entertaining.


Despite a recent patch that supposedly accelerated nVidia's shader routines, ATI's new X800 XT dominates the overall performance picture, though at 1024x768 the Geforce 6800 Ultra comes in on top. At 1024x768 and 1280x1024, processor performance looks like it's limiting the X800 XT, while the GeForce 6800 Ultra begins dropping off after 1280x1024. By 1600x1200, the flagship Radeon X800 XT flagship has a 21 percent lead on the Geforce 6800 Ultra.

Though Far Cry's graphical intensity shrinks the gap between the GeForce 6800 Ultra and Radeon X800 to just slightly over 1 FPS at 1600x1200, lower resolutions still favor ATI by up to 14 percent. The Radeon 9800 XT fares just as well, beating nVidia's GeForce FX 5950 Ultra at each resolution, though only slightly.


Conclusions

nVidia's new GeForce 6800 Ultra is, without question, a massive improvement over the GeForce FX 5950 Ultra that came before it. And, at least from first glance, it's pretty clear that this time nVidia has the performance numbers to back it up.

Nvidia's new architecture introduces a lot of potential beyond what we saw with NV3x. To begin, it features a massively parallel 3D pipeline for achieving up to 8x higher pixel shading (a historic weakness of NV40's predecessor) and up to 2x better vertex shading performance.

Moreover, the architecture supports Shader Model 3.0, part of Microsoft's upcoming DirectX 9.0c. Among the improvements there, displacement mapping, vertex texture fetching, and FP32 shader precision are perhaps the most notable enhancements. The DX9 subset also introduces longer vertex and pixel shader programs, dynamic flow control, and geometry instancing as well, though.

But even more relevant is the nVidia GeForce 6800's position versus ATI's recently announced Radeon X800 XT, formerly referred to as R420. The Radeon X800 XT does lack in a few areas - it doesn't support the Shader Model 3.0 specification, and in turn, it won't do FP32 precision. At the same time, however, it is a bit faster than the GeForce 6800 Ultra in what could be construed as the most demanding metrics, consumes a single AGP slot, and it doesn't come with a 480W power supply recommendation.

In response to this, nVidia is reportedly readying a limited-edition version of the GeForce 6800 Ultra bearing an Extreme suffix. Performance considerations aside, the Extreme version of the nVidia Geforce 6800 will be even more expensive than the 6800 Ultra, and purportedly sparsely available. The card's relevance in relation to its competition remains to be seen, but when it is released, we'll do our best to bring you a review of it, so you can judge for yourself.

So, although nVidia has clearly taken strides to improve upon its previous architecture, and while it holds Shader Model 3.0 and FP32 precision over ATI's head, the nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra fell just short of ATI's Radeon X800 XT video card in most of the benchmarks we've shown you - especially at higher resolutions with all the eye candy turned on. For luscious gaming, with killer image quality at the highest resolutions, it's clear that the Geforce FX 5950 Ultra has been significantly surpassed by the new Geforce 6800 Ultra. The differences between the nVidia Geforce 6800 Ultra and the ATI Radeon X800 XT are closer, but it is apparent that nVidia's NV40 still has some catching up to do!

[RGX]

Originally posted by RGX+6 May 2004 - 21:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RGX @ 6 May 2004 - 21:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by atiVidia@6 May 2004 - 21:46

Originally posted by RGX@6 May 2004 - 16:42
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@6 May 2004 - 21:21
will it be at a decent fps?


id like to see that.

@rgx: if i was trying to reason with you, this thread would not have hit 6 pages. stop trolling if its a waste of your time, then WHY ARE YOU DOING IT???


:teehee:

I had stopped. It was a waste of my time because you were an idiot. I am not trolling, I am stating my opinion. You are stating yours, and although in practice it is wrong, you are welcome to it. I also have the right to argue with that opinion however. This argument was and still is a wast of my time, but a direct reply requires a direct response.

i coulda sworn u were trolling.


also the 6800gt (when OCd, can beat an x800xt OCed) takes less power than many other cards.


so ur argument is false.






i wont be surprised if someone ends up asking to close this thread or move it to the lounge

1) Please post a link to benchmark scores of an X800XT OC&#39;ed in direct comparison to a 6800GT, also OC&#39;ed.

2) Please post the power draw from the cards also.

I would be very interested to see this information. [/b][/quote]
Still waiting...

[atiVidia]

wait til mid june and ill confirm it for ya

[RGX]

Originally posted by atiVidia@7 May 2004 - 19:38
wait til mid june and ill confirm it for ya

So basically, you lied. You are basing your "facts" on information that isnt available yet. Well done.

*Claps*

[atiVidia]

thank you (i bow)


im waiting til mid june to confirm them for myself. u get urself an x800xt, and me a 6800gt, and well OC them and bench

[RGX]

I dont doubt it will probably be faster. I think I could make an MX440 faster than the X800XT with a month and almost unlimited resources. All I am saying is you are spreading bullshit as fact. Moron.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by atiVidia@7 May 2004 - 20:25
thank you (i bow)


im waiting til mid june to confirm them for myself. u get urself an x800xt, and me a 6800gt, and well OC them and bench

Yes, lets all run totally unfair tests on which to base opinions. Get 2 perfectly the same systems, the same batch number on each chip, RAM, etc. The only variable being the card. Even better, use the same system only replace the card each time.

Your idea is like pitting a tiger against a mouse with 4 broken legs.