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Sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
Anyone know how much a decent ocean view property in New Joisey would cost me.
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Next post - Darker asks me about taking the role of Station Manager off him. This log shows a number of things, which shows why I was hesitant for DJs to fully explore SAM2's features (the old DJs will know what I mean), and Marc's "death" of Darker (all logs were done on 7th's new MSN address, which is shown at the end but I believe is shut now)
Originally posted by Conversation log with Darker @ my Trillian directory
Session Start ([email protected]:Darker Development): Tue Dec 02 20:22:05 2003
[20:22] Darker Development: hiya Mr Radio
[20:22] Illuminati Radio: Hey :)
[20:22] Darker Development: question
[20:22] Illuminati Radio: And will you stop calling me Mr Radio? :P
[20:22] Illuminati Radio: Answer - Next ;)
[20:22] Darker Development: are you interested to do more on the KLB radio than just to stream ?
[20:22] Darker Development: like managing new signups etc etc
[20:22] Illuminati Radio: Could you elaborate?
[20:22] Illuminati Radio: Ah
[20:22] Illuminati Radio: Depends on what is involved, but I can
[20:22] Darker Development: event management / approvals etc
[20:23] Illuminati Radio: *am interested
[20:23] Illuminati Radio: You mean overwatch shows?
[20:23] Darker Development: Well it would include:
[20:23] Darker Development: -general info about the radio idea
[20:23] Darker Development: - approve / decline signups
[20:23] Darker Development: offering help if people have a Q
[20:23] Darker Development: something like that :)
[20:23] Illuminati Radio: Course
[20:24] Illuminati Radio: I already do some of those (e.g. offering support)
[20:24] Darker Development: yup thats why i was thinking about you :)
[20:24] Darker Development: you know how the stuff works etc and what we allow and what not
[20:24] Illuminati Radio: Yep
[20:24] Darker Development: so maybe you would be a great resource for it
[20:24] Illuminati Radio: ALLOW - Anything not called internet.news
REJECT - internet.news ;)
[20:25] Illuminati Radio: j/k, but I get your point :)
[20:25] Darker Development: lol
[20:25] Illuminati Radio: What do you need me for?
[20:25] Darker Development: inews just sucks
[20:25] Darker Development: well the general idea is to have less things to care about
[20:25] Darker Development: now with all the admin stuff the time gets more and more limited
[20:25] Illuminati Radio: You want me to take an admin post?
[20:26] Darker Development: well something like station manager yup :p
[20:26] Darker Development: the one that decides if a show is approved or not :p
[20:26] Illuminati Radio: Okay :)
[20:26] Illuminati Radio: But I have two requests before I accept the job :)
[20:26] Darker Development: shoot
[20:27] Illuminati Radio: 1) Access to the test server, at least for the next week or so - I now use a remote database for MySQL on SAM and I want to try some of the web features it can do, but I don't want to clog the main server
[20:28] Darker Development: i would be very very careful with SAM and its features i already got an email from them asking what versions we use
[20:28] Illuminati Radio: If I was being honest, I had two dodgy emails myself
[20:28] Darker Development: i would suggest to make an own request list cause they are aware of the activities here
[20:28] Illuminati Radio: They were asking whether I could send them the loader
[20:28] Illuminati Radio: Which I no longer use
[20:29] Darker Development: well i would say that we can code some script to get requests up
[20:29] Darker Development: i can do that in 5 mins
[20:29] Illuminati Radio: I don't have the PHP knowledge to make a request system - Know anyone who can?
[20:29] Illuminati Radio: Okay
[20:29] Darker Development: and merge it with the forums
[20:29] Illuminati Radio: And the other request...
[20:29] Illuminati Radio: 2) Moved to another user group on the forum, but still a member - The reason is it might be an idea to give me control to the calender, but you can't give the member group the control, and I don't think the mods would want me with them just for the radio, so somewhere in between might be better :)
[20:30] Illuminati Radio: e.g. 'Radio Admin'
[20:30] Darker Development: yup i had this idea too
[20:30] Darker Development: "Station Manager"
[20:30] Illuminati Radio: Okay - If you want :)
[20:30] Darker Development: only additional rights are calendar posts :)
[20:30] Darker Development: but still people see it is official
[20:31] Illuminati Radio: Aw - Can't I sneak a peek at the team chat (e.g. read-only access)? ;)
[20:31] Illuminati Radio: LOL - j/k
[20:31] Darker Development: hehe nope that would not work well :P hehe
[20:31] Illuminati Radio: Well, there is one other request...
[20:31] Darker Development: you only get admin rights on the server
[20:31] Darker Development: for example to kick a host
[20:32] Darker Development: if content is bad
[20:32] Illuminati Radio: There will be some jobs that others in a better position would be better suited for doing - Can I ask that Lamsey be offered some kind of second job, e.g. Head DJ?
[20:32] Illuminati Radio: It's just a precaution
[20:33] Darker Development: well before i do anything i will start a post in the team chat to make sure it is accepted
[20:33] Illuminati Radio: Okay - But please keep that in mind :)
[20:33] Darker Development: and about lamsey: i will make it that 2 people have access to all the management for the radio
[20:33] Illuminati Radio: Either way, I accept the admin post whenever you want to hand it me :)
[20:33] Darker Development: just in case somebody is not here etc
[20:33] Illuminati Radio: Exactly my point :)
[20:34] Illuminati Radio: Let me know when you want to make it official :)
[20:34] Illuminati Radio: BTW - In case I have to PM you...
[20:34] Illuminati Radio: Do you prefer Darker or 7th? ;)
[20:34] Darker Development: you will know it once the topic was discussed in team chat :)
[20:34] Darker Development: always 7th
[20:35] Darker Development: ill create a new msn nick now one sec
[20:35] Illuminati Radio: Okay - I wasn't sure. I know, public its 7th. Just didn't know which you did when it was private :)
[20:35] Darker Development: always 7th - darker is gone
[20:35] Darker Development: all his sites will be gone too :)
[20:35] Darker Development: all new things = 7th
[20:36] Darker Development: brb after registratuon
[20:36] Darker Development: registration*
[20:36] *** "Darker Development" signed off at Tue Dec 02 20:36:07 2003.
Session Close (Darker Development): Tue Dec 02 20:36:19 2003
Session Start ([email protected]:Darker Development): Tue Dec 02 20:40:43 2003
[20:40] Darker Development: [email protected]
[20:40] *** "Darker Development" signed off at Tue Dec 02 20:40:47 2003.
Session Close (Darker Development): Tue Dec 02 21:10:33 2003
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Sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
Anyone know how much a decent ocean view property in New Joisey would cost me.
I'm about 1 mile from the Ocean in South NJ. :-)
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Originally posted by rookiecrd1@19 May 2004 - 23:43
Sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
Anyone know how much a decent ocean view property in New Joisey would cost me.
I'm about 1 mile from the Ocean in South NJ. :-)
No shit, you'll be telling me it's Bay Ave, Somers Point Next.
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The next log is the last one for the night, and was the first one on 7th's MSN account. Dunno how the hell we managed to talk about so much, but a lot of things were talked about this time - How we made Darker & 7th seem different, a further elaboration on why he changed to 7th, what was his plan of letting the community find out about 7th, the duties of the mods, planned enhancements of the now-defunct KLB Radio station, why members do not have the ability to post polls, EarthStation 5's way of doing things, a test of the Smilie Generator, articles hinting at this at Illuminati Development, and why the post counts were removed.
Although I've made a note to not edit anything in these logs, I have made an exception in this case - I did indeed give two passwords to 7th at the time, and there's no chance in hell I'm giving them to you guys 
Originally posted by Conversation log with 7th @ my Trillian directory
Session Start ([email protected]:7thElement): Tue Dec 02 21:11:24 2003
[21:11] Illuminati Radio: Damn - I'm gonna miss Darker :(
[21:11] Illuminati Radio: At least, the name :)
[21:11] 7thElement: hehe
[21:11] 7thElement: well sometimes you have no choice :)
[21:12] Illuminati Radio: You got a plan of what time you're gonna tell the community, or are you even planning to tell them in the first place?
[21:12] 7thElement: nope i wont tell anything
[21:12] 7thElement: i have strong reasons to go this way so the best thing is to forget darker
[21:13] Illuminati Radio: While I can see why, truth be told it's a bit shade on some of the more mature members
[21:13] Illuminati Radio: *shade = north English version of semi-cruel
[21:13] 7thElement: well it is not only better for me but also for the community
[21:13] 7thElement: cause if something happens then i would have to stop hosting the board
[21:13] 7thElement: and that would be bad for the community
[21:14] Illuminati Radio: You mean if anyone planned to use your brother's condition against you?
[21:14] 7thElement: well the problem is that there are around 5 - 5 people that know about my brother - people that hate me cause i have anything and they dont
[21:15] 7thElement: they did tell me that they will cause many troubles to sites that i run just to make me feel bad
[21:15] Illuminati Radio: People you know in RL?
[21:15] 7thElement: aka using private stuff to make me feel bad
[21:15] 7thElement: yup RL people
[21:15] Illuminati Radio: Family/Friends?
[21:15] 7thElement: so i had to stop all activities of Darker
[21:15] 7thElement: nah that are people that hate me cause i am successful
[21:15] 7thElement: company etc
[21:16] 7thElement: they just look for reasons to make me feel bad
[21:16] 7thElement: the thing with my brother would be such a thing
[21:16] 7thElement: like posting private details to the board etc
[21:16] Illuminati Radio: Okay - I can see all of that
[21:16] 7thElement: just to remind me whats up with my brother
[21:16] 7thElement: so thats why i disappeared
[21:16] 7thElement: cause you can be sure that f they would start i would go mad
[21:16] 7thElement: and that would be bad if an admin goes mad
[21:17] Illuminati Radio: The only thing I'm worried about is that sooner or later, this whole "secret" might come out
[21:17] Illuminati Radio: If that happens, I fear that it might destroy the board in that way as well
[21:17] 7thElement: nope that wont happen
[21:17] 7thElement: people know that i am gone
[21:17] 7thElement: nobody will ask
[21:17] Illuminati Radio: I've done the same vow that the mods have done, but someone might find out.
[21:18] Illuminati Radio: Have they been on the board yet?
[21:18] 7thElement: nope
[21:18] 7thElement: but they know that i hosted a kayaa related board
[21:18] Illuminati Radio: Kazaa ;)
[21:18] 7thElement: so if they search for "Darker" they might find it
[21:18] 7thElement: thats why i am not longer the host as darker
[21:18] 7thElement: so they have no reason to do anything
[21:19] Illuminati Radio: You could always create a spoof board as "Darker" - A few manipulations of the SQL could make it look legit
[21:19] Illuminati Radio: Let them come, let them get angry then shut it down to fool them
[21:19] Illuminati Radio: It's an idea
[21:19] 7thElement: well nothing will happen now
[21:20] 7thElement: darkers nick does not longer exist on the board
[21:20] 7thElement: and he said that he is gone
[21:20] Illuminati Radio: They could question that
[21:20] 7thElement: nah they dont
[21:20] Illuminati Radio: Many have said they aren't coming back and they do
[21:20] 7thElement: i know them for years
[21:20] 7thElement: they know that if i say something then it is what i said
[21:20] Illuminati Radio: They may see that 7th is somehow trying to get rid of Darker
[21:20] 7thElement: well i dont
[21:21] 7thElement: i did even tell that he did help me :)
[21:21] 7thElement: i dont try to get rid of him i even support him and continue with his projects :)
[21:21] 7thElement: i dont think they would do something anyway i just wanted to make him disappear to feel more safe
[21:22] 7thElement: but even if they come they cant prove anything that i am him
[21:22] 7thElement: i have another house now, other city other isp etc
[21:22] Illuminati Radio: Good point
[21:22] 7thElement: i talk different without hehe
[21:22] 7thElement: etc
[21:22] 7thElement: 7th doesnt post like darker at all
[21:22] 7thElement: he has his own style :)
[21:22] Illuminati Radio: Sounds as if you're on the Witness Protection :S
[21:22] 7thElement: hehe
[21:23] Illuminati Radio: So what exactly happened to make them have this vendetta?
[21:23] Illuminati Radio: I know they hate your success, but most things have a catalyst
[21:23] Illuminati Radio: Bar prejudice - And even then events kick off ;)
[21:23] 7thElement: well you know some people are just mad if you reach anything and they dont
[21:24] 7thElement: some did try to run a company and failed
[21:24] 7thElement: some did try to start internet stuff and it faild
[21:24] 7thElement: so its more or less a "why can you do it and we cant"
[21:24] 7thElement: my company is worth 40 million euro which is a lot
[21:24] 7thElement: so well.. they hate that fact :)
[21:24] Illuminati Radio: Got any spaces free in it? :D
[21:24] 7thElement: not really we have 180 people and thats already too much :p
[21:24] Illuminati Radio: Hehe - j/k
[21:25] Illuminati Radio: Can't blame a guy for trying to get 40mill...I mean, a job ;)
[21:25] 7thElement: hehe
[21:25] 7thElement: well i worked hard - they didnt
[21:25] 7thElement: they are like internet.news
[21:25] 7thElement: started everything that i started
[21:25] 7thElement: but well it failed
[21:26] Illuminati Radio: Lemme guess - Casualties of the dot.com bubble?
[21:26] 7thElement: i guess so lol
[21:26] 7thElement: the problem is that people dont think about what they do
[21:26] 7thElement: they think a host is a host
[21:26] 7thElement: they think a site is a site
[21:26] 7thElement: but its more than that
[21:27] Illuminati Radio: True - Too many people see a lot of things as objects or statistics
[21:28] Illuminati Radio: Though with 40 million euros in the bank, I'm surprised you don't just sue them for harassment as a deterrent ;)
[21:28] Illuminati Radio: I mean, you don't necessary need Johnny Cochrane... ;)
[21:28] 7thElement: this is not the usa :p
[21:28] Illuminati Radio: True :)
[21:29] 7thElement: plus private stuff is not worth to fight :p
[21:29] 7thElement: makes me more sad than money can pay
[21:29] Illuminati Radio: Okay - I'll get off the subject.
[21:29] Illuminati Radio: How is your brother?
[21:29] 7thElement: soon here at home we will transfer him here
[21:30] 7thElement: sometimes that does help more than letting people in a hospital
[21:30] Illuminati Radio: I hope he gets better, even though the chances may be low :S
[21:31] Illuminati Radio: So do the team know about the radio plans then?
[21:31] 7thElement: yup already posted it
[21:32] Illuminati Radio: Any responses?
[21:32] 7thElement: that takes time :p not all mods are online right now
[21:32] Illuminati Radio: I know - Just wondering
[21:32] 7thElement: 3 are on 1 did already vote
[21:32] Illuminati Radio: There's usually a few about at any one time - Just wondering how they're taking it so far :)
[21:33] 7thElement: there are always mods - most of them just hide
[21:34] 7thElement: i hide most times too cause else the pm box is going crazy
[21:35] Illuminati Radio: Damn - Probably a lot of people wanting to talk to the admin :)
[21:35] 7thElement: well i didnt think it was so much
[21:35] 7thElement: its like 50 PMs / day
[21:35] 7thElement: plus replies and again replies
[21:35] 7thElement: makes like 200 per day
[21:35] Illuminati Radio: Damn - What can people say to fill that many PMs? o_O
[21:36] 7thElement: pretty much lol
[21:36] 7thElement: how long is moderation
[21:36] 7thElement: how much space do you need for such a board
[21:36] Illuminati Radio: Tell net.news it's for bleeding ever ;)
[21:36] 7thElement: wrong posted topics
[21:36] 7thElement: avatars
[21:36] 7thElement: etc
[21:36] Illuminati Radio: Wrong posteds and avatars are mods' duties, aren't they?
[21:37] 7thElement: yup but if no mod is there i have a look
[21:37] 7thElement: depends on the content
[21:37] Illuminati Radio: Probably an idea to re-iterate, either yourself or a mod
[21:37] 7thElement: right now the most stuff that i do is new rules and stuff (even if most peole hate it)
[21:37] 7thElement: people*
[21:37] Illuminati Radio: i.e. rule infringments and complaints goes to mods first, THEN admin as a last resort
[21:38] Illuminati Radio: Screw them - It's not their board :P
[21:38] 7thElement: nah lol i think it is important to give a choice
[21:38] 7thElement: its a community so all things must be good for the community and not one single person
[21:38] Illuminati Radio: Truth be told - Dunno whether the mods will accept me as the manager, but one of the things I'm planning to do is a code/set of rules for the radio
[21:39] Illuminati Radio: That is, unless the admin shuts them same rules down once posted ;)
[21:39] 7thElement: the mods here are pretty cool - its a real team
[21:39] 7thElement: you dont find that often
[21:39] 7thElement: they either agree all or none of them :)
[21:39] 7thElement: pretty good team play
[21:40] Illuminati Radio: You're starting to make me worry more about the Station Manager idea :'-(
[21:40] Illuminati Radio: *poll, not idea :)
[21:40] 7thElement: lol well the first one posted his / her ok
[21:41] 7thElement: so i guess it wont be a problem :p
[21:41] 7thElement: There are no saved notes for this member
[21:41] 7thElement: is also good
[21:41] Illuminati Radio: Well I'll still be worrying until the fat lady sings :S
[21:41] Illuminati Radio: It doesn't help when I can't see the topic, but that's forum life :)
[21:41] 7thElement: hehe
[21:42] Illuminati Radio: BTW - Did you manage to do anything concerning a script?
[21:42] Illuminati Radio: I mean, for the requests
[21:42] Illuminati Radio: Just wondering :)
[21:42] 7thElement: i will just code a little request form that is linked in the radio board
[21:42] 7thElement: some sql stuff where the dj can access his messages
[21:43] Illuminati Radio: Great :)
[21:43] 7thElement: maybe i will add something where you can list your songs
[21:43] 7thElement: and people can choose from
[21:43] 7thElement: that every dj can build his own database
[21:43] Illuminati Radio: Great :)
[21:43] Illuminati Radio: How long would that take?
[21:44] 7thElement: 1 hour i think
[21:44] 7thElement: maybe less
[21:44] Illuminati Radio: I was just thinking, it would be a great idea for the Radio relaunch
[21:44] 7thElement: 10 mins should do the job
[21:44] Illuminati Radio: If it's done tonight, I can take a look at it and try it
[21:44] 7thElement: i dont think ill do it today cause i am lazy right now :p
[21:44] Illuminati Radio: Thursday, do a 'test run' ;) to see how it would do during a show. Have it ready for Friday
[21:45] Illuminati Radio: Of course :)
[21:45] 7thElement: it will be more or less like a form like
[21:45] 7thElement: Artist / Track
[21:45] Illuminati Radio: Quite frankly, I just can't wait to see it :D
[21:45] 7thElement: people have a dropdown list then and can choose a song
[21:45] Illuminati Radio: Don't suppose you could make it read MP3 tags, could you? :)
[21:45] Illuminati Radio: Just thinking - Otherwise, DJs could be inputting hundreds of track details
[21:46] Illuminati Radio: God help FC with that if he became a DJ :S
[21:46] 7thElement: thats possible but i have no idea how cause i never did it so i guess its just a insert list
[21:46] 7thElement: well i think 250 would be enough
[21:46] Illuminati Radio: It could be read via a MySQL database
[21:46] Illuminati Radio: AFAIK, SAM2 puts them in a MySQL database
[21:47] Illuminati Radio: You could just read the SQL data then. That is, if you can ;)
[21:47] 7thElement: yup thats possible
[21:47] 7thElement: pretty easy
[21:47] Illuminati Radio: Does that help you out a bit? :)
[21:47] Illuminati Radio: I'm starting to love SAM2's total data dependance on MySQL :D
[21:47] 7thElement: i will offer a submission form where you can submit a sql file
[21:47] 7thElement: and as 2nd option an artist / title thingy
[21:47] 7thElement: then people can choose what they want
[21:48] Illuminati Radio: Only problem - It could mean that all DJs would have to connect to a central MySQL database on the station's server
[21:48] Illuminati Radio: Ah - Okay :)
[21:48] 7thElement: every dj has an own database
[21:48] 7thElement: so thats no big deal
[21:48] 7thElement: umm look at the lounge lol
[21:49] 7thElement: i guess you see the reason why i dont want to allow people posting polls themself :p
[21:49] 7thElement: poll about a poll
[21:49] 7thElement: poll about hats
[21:49] 7thElement: lol
[21:49] Illuminati Radio: LOL
[21:49] Illuminati Radio: Already saw it ;)
[21:50] Illuminati Radio: Well - I think that when REALITY asked for a poll about polls, the whole poll issue went to hell :D
[21:50] 7thElement: i think the best idea wouldto have a Pollworld
[21:50] 7thElement: where only polls are located
[21:50] Illuminati Radio: I dunno
[21:50] 7thElement: then people know where to go if they want to vote
[21:50] Illuminati Radio: Let me show you something
[21:50] Illuminati Radio: Do you have a spam email address?
[21:50] 7thElement: then we could even allow people to instantly post it :p
[21:50] 7thElement: nope
[21:50] Illuminati Radio: Just let me show you something
[21:51] Illuminati Radio: Alright then - You'll have to log in on my account then
[21:51] Illuminati Radio: (Link: /index.php)http://forums4.[SPAM]/index.php]http://forums4.[SPAM]/index.php)http://fo...5.com/index.php
[21:51] Illuminati Radio: Username - I-Dev
Password - EDITED OUT
[21:52] Illuminati Radio: It won't let you see any topics without an account
[21:52] Illuminati Radio: Now let me find what I'm trying to show you...
[21:52] 7thElement: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, the password was wrong. All passwords are case sensitive
[21:52] Illuminati Radio: Ah - I think I know what I did wrong
[21:52] Illuminati Radio: Try this one - EDITED OUT
[21:52] Illuminati Radio: Let me show you some polls
[21:53] 7thElement: worked
[21:53] Illuminati Radio: Go to the Spam/Flame/Torture Chamber forum
[21:53] Illuminati Radio: Look for any topic that has 'poll' in the title and is started by 'DaDead'
[21:53] Illuminati Radio: Take a look at some of them
[21:54] Illuminati Radio: Let me know what you think of them
[21:54] 7thElement: well first of all i think this is exactly what i dont want at the kl boards
[21:55] 7thElement: i mean look at the masses of polls and the content
[21:55] Illuminati Radio: That's why I showed you it
[21:55] Illuminati Radio: DaDead is one of those who spreads the filth intentionally. The board is a liberal one so DaDead gets away with it, and it's been going on for a bit that it's almost institutionalised
[21:56] Illuminati Radio: DaDead does it intentionally as a cliche, a joke
[21:56] Illuminati Radio: Would you put it past no members, hand on heart, to even try to do the same?
[21:56] 7thElement: well i would not like it much if this happens on the kl board
[21:56] Illuminati Radio: I wouldn't
[21:57] Illuminati Radio: Trust me Darker - Keep the polls to the team only on all circumstances
[21:57] Illuminati Radio: It's better for all, all round then
[21:57] 7thElement: well i never wanted to change it i think it is the best oidea if people have to ask a mod
[21:57] 7thElement: cause mods know if it makes sense or not
[21:57] 7thElement: plus they know if it already exists
[21:58] Illuminati Radio: BTW did you log off after you left the ESV board?
[21:58] 7thElement: users would just make a new one without to look if such a poll already exists
[21:58] 7thElement: yup
[21:58] Illuminati Radio: I don't want SP breathing on my ass for two connections for more than a few seconds ;)
[21:58] Illuminati Radio: I don't usually like him when he's cool, so Lord knows what might happen if he finds me sharing the connection ;)
[21:59] 7thElement: well he is a strange person
[21:59] 7thElement: i wonder why people go there anyway
[21:59] 7thElement: i checke d that board when the explloit was found
[21:59] 7thElement: and his answers were not admin like
[22:00] Illuminati Radio: Originally, I went there to try to cool down the heat between us and ESV
[22:00] Illuminati Radio: Course, that was about a few weeks after the exploit was released
[22:00] Illuminati Radio: A good tip about ESV is don't pay attention to whatever SharePro says - It's the other one, FileHoover, who usually doesn't speak out of his arse ;)
[22:00] Illuminati Radio: But I digress :)
[22:01] 7thElement: well i tell you what... i dont think they forgot to remove that "feature" cause it makes no sense at all
[22:01] 7thElement: as a coder myself i know that this is not the normal way to add features for "updates"
[22:02] Illuminati Radio: My own honest opinion was that it was just sloppy coding. But I could be wrong myself
[22:02] 7thElement: if you do updates you dont need to touch the running exe in any way
[22:02] 7thElement: you could simply dl the new stuff, ask for restarting the prog
[22:02] 7thElement: and take the new exe over with the reboot
[22:02] 7thElement: via temp files
[22:03] 7thElement: every newb knows that
[22:03] 7thElement: no need to delete anything :)
[22:03] Illuminati Radio: I have to admit - I knew that method myself
[22:03] 7thElement: the second reason is that even if you want to delete stuff for an update
[22:04] 7thElement: then you could do it without remote access
[22:04] 7thElement: just via local rights
[22:04] 7thElement: so umm i dont like them much hehe
[22:04] 7thElement: they cant be that dumb if they code a client
[22:04] 7thElement: so umm odd guys :)
[22:05] Illuminati Radio: 'cuse me one sec - Adding another article on my site
[22:06] 7thElement: btw
[22:06] 7thElement: do you think i should add a smilie gen to the klboard ? :p
[22:06] 7thElement: (Link: http://www.klboard.ath.cx/generator/?text=...a%20radio%20guy
[22:06] 7thElement: like this
[22:06] 7thElement: wrong one lol
[22:06] Illuminati Radio: LOL
[22:06] Illuminati Radio: Lemme give you a response
[22:06] 7thElement: wrong url lol
[22:06] 7thElement: (Link: http://www.klboard.ath.cx/generator/?text=...tor/?text=Hello
[22:07] 7thElement: hmm
[22:07] 7thElement: doesnt like direct links lol
[22:07] Illuminati Radio: (Link: http://www.klboard.ath.cx/generator/?text=...dmin%20man%20:P
[22:07] 7thElement: :p
[22:09] 7thElement: oh well i guess i will just write some save smilie function and add it
[22:09] 7thElement: doesnt harm anyway :p
[22:10] Illuminati Radio: BTW - Dunno whether you minded it or not, check out some of the articles on the IllDev site
[22:10] Illuminati Radio: (Link: http://illdev.ashst.com]http://illdev.ashst.com)http://illdev.ashst.com[/url]
[22:11] Illuminati Radio: There were some things I found pretty important
[22:11] Illuminati Radio: ...that we discussed.
[22:12] Illuminati Radio: That, and I wanted to piss readers about in terms of events I'm not allowed to say :)
[22:12] Illuminati Radio: I'm not talking about the 7th/Darker thing though, more about the plans you said for the forum
[22:13] 7thElement: hehe nice (besides it is a nuke cms) :)
[22:13] 7thElement: btw maybe you can explain me one thing
[22:13] Illuminati Radio: Well what could I do - I'm not an internet billionaire :P
[22:13] Illuminati Radio: Go on
[22:13] 7thElement: related to the post counts
[22:13] 7thElement: you also say on your page that the negative side is that people will start to post more at the lounge ... why do people think so ?
[22:14] 7thElement: i mean why would you post a question to the lounge if you get an answer faster at the right section
[22:14] 7thElement: same for movie talk
[22:14] Illuminati Radio: It isn't just that
[22:14] 7thElement: why loungs if you get a faster reply at the movieworld
[22:14] Illuminati Radio: There's some things in the Lounge that people want to preserve
[22:14] Illuminati Radio: Things which have been around for a while, e.g. Riddler's Gauntlet topics
[22:14] Illuminati Radio: The worry for them is that as PCs are counted back in the Lounge, all the spammers will, as planned, returned to the Lounge
[22:15] 7thElement: well the lounge is more or less spam anyway
[22:15] Illuminati Radio: The problem with that is that those topics might be sunk because of the intake of predicted spam
[22:15] 7thElement: even the wonderful day is 90 % spam
[22:15] Illuminati Radio: Spam and off-topic stuff aren't always the same
[22:15] 7thElement: i dont think that more people will post in the lounge at all
[22:15] 7thElement: the loungeis for all off topic stuff anyway
[22:16] 7thElement: and people spam there since i know the board
[22:16] 7thElement: so i dont think that stuff will change at all
[22:16] Illuminati Radio: Like I said, off-topic and spam aren't always the same
[22:16] Illuminati Radio: Some members may regret the decision if they were treated as such
[22:17] 7thElement: well the same discussion did exist when the idea was to remove the count hehe
[22:17] 7thElement: i did my work to research it
[22:17] 7thElement: and it was exactly the same lol
[22:17] 7thElement: well we will see in future if anything changes cause changes will be made
[22:17] 7thElement: post counts goes bye bye
[22:18] 7thElement: and will be replaced witha link to all members posts
[22:18] 7thElement: and all posts will be counted
[22:18] 7thElement: just that you dont see the postcount in a topic
[22:18] 7thElement: you would bhave to check the members profile
[22:19] 7thElement: top posters of the day = bye bye too
[22:19] 7thElement: only overall top will stay
[22:19] Illuminati Radio: You mean remove the post count system altogether?
[22:19] 7thElement: nope all posts will count
[22:19] 7thElement: but you wont see it in the topic
[22:19] Illuminati Radio: At least, the numerical system
[22:19] 7thElement: only in a members profile
[22:19] Illuminati Radio: That may help
[22:19] 7thElement: the
[22:19] 7thElement: Posts: number here
[22:19] 7thElement: will be replaced with
[22:20] 7thElement: Members Posts <== link to all posts of this member
[22:20] Illuminati Radio: Nice :)
[22:20] Illuminati Radio: Can I offer one addition suggestion to that though?
[22:20] 7thElement: there are many pros i can name you a few
[22:20] 7thElement: - 1 post is worth 1 post
[22:20] 7thElement: - less spamming to get posts
[22:20] 7thElement: - no post whores (nobody will notice anyway)
[22:21] 7thElement: - better way for admins to delete inactive accounts
[22:21] 7thElement: - no more top spammer of the day
[22:21] 7thElement: no more i am number 1 of the day posts
[22:21] 7thElement: and all posts are worth the same
[22:21] 7thElement: a wonderful day post is in fact worth more than some spam
[22:21] 7thElement: but its still just a post
[22:21] Illuminati Radio: I have to admit, it does sound good...
[22:22] Illuminati Radio: ...But did you have to decide this less than 25 posts away from my five stars? :P
[22:22] 7thElement: stars stay
[22:22] 7thElement: cause they look god
[22:22] Illuminati Radio: That's my suggestion
[22:22] 7thElement: good
[22:22] Illuminati Radio: Well, kinda
[22:22] 7thElement: only the number will disappear
[22:22] Illuminati Radio: The stars are important to a few, but they are tied to the number of posts currently
[22:23] Illuminati Radio: Can anything be done to change that to the amount of time a member has been on the board?
[22:23] 7thElement: well i see the stars like a half nakes woman
[22:23] 7thElement: its more interesting
[22:23] Illuminati Radio: True dat ;)
[22:23] 7thElement: if you see all stuff at ones you dont care
[22:23] 7thElement: so you see stars and maybe you want to see more of this member
[22:23] 7thElement: then you check his profile
[22:24] 7thElement: i think thats the better way
[22:24] 7thElement: the fact is that some people only post in other areas to get the count up
[22:24] 7thElement: and thats not good
[22:24] 7thElement: people should post where they want to post
[22:24] 7thElement: and not only change the subject to make it fit theboard rules
Session Close (7thElement): Tue Dec 02 22:26:39 2003
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OMG this was boring the first time around.
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Originally posted by Withcheese@10 June 2004 - 00:56
OMG this was boring the first time around.
I'll leave it then. 
I did mean to post the rest of the logs in one form or another, but as they'd be talking to a wall it's probably the best thing to let this die.
If anyone's really interested in seeing the rest, then they know who to contact for them. But considering we've got more important issues instead of this old news, I'm done posting here
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Though if you have any logs with Rip the Jackoff then we'd all be interested in those.
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Though if you have any logs with Rip the Jackoff then we'd all be interested in those. 
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