What Is Wrong With This Paragraph?

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Biggles+8 July 2004 - 01:22--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggles @ 8 July 2004 - 01:22)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@8 July 2004 - 00:06
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@8 July 2004 - 01:02
J&#39;Pol

I think nationality and racial identity are separate issues.

I think you are right in that there is a racist undertone in the piece - but it is not Keikan that is the source. The girl in question appears to be pandering to some sort of expected stereotype. I haven&#39;t bothered checking the link but it sounds awful.

I care not one jot.

His explanation of how the paragraph was wrong is intrinsically racist. No matter his own background.

I find it intolerable and will say so.

I understand what you are saying, although I think you are being a tad harsh on Keikan.

I followed the link. I am not sure what it is about but she would appear to be a rather pretty 14 year old Canadian of Japanese parentage. I am not entirely sure the parents would be comfortable with what she has done.

It might be fair to say that the only true Canadians are Native Americans. The rest are all a mixture of their source races. However, who am I to question the melting pot. If as Hobbes suggests she is trying to get away from stereotypes then this is good. I must say though, I read the piece as though it was written negatively about her own racial background, but I am content I may be wrong about this. I don&#39;t know enough about the dynamics of Canadian society to assess what is really going on - other than she appears to be trying to misbehave. [/b][/quote]
What has the link to do with anything.

It is his explanation of the paragraph which is important, not the justification.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by Biggles@7 July 2004 - 22:22
I don&#39;t know enough about the dynamics of Canadian society to assess what is really going on - other than she appears to be trying to misbehave.

Asian Canadian Highschool Girls in Trouble.

I love it&#33; I mean, we all love Chinese food, why not their women as well. I know I do, big time.

[Biggles]

J&#39;Pol

If Keikan were not the same race as the girl and was using the information to slight then I would agree. I read his piece (Keikan is a he ?) as indignation that the girl was denying what he is clearly proud of. Perhaps inverted racism would be a more appropriate charge.

However, it is late and my brain hurts.

[Cheese]

1. " I am not a model but I am to my daddy."
Some incest action going on here?

You are an idiot. What daddy doesn&#39;t tell his daughter she is the most beautiful girl in the world...you have a dirty mind.

[Keikan]

ok thats fair

[Biggles]

Originally posted by Withcheese@8 July 2004 - 00:34

1. " I am not a model but I am to my daddy."
Some incest action going on here?

You are an idiot. What daddy doesn&#39;t tell his daughter she is the most beautiful girl in the world...you have a dirty mind.

Now this is a totally separate issue and an area on much firmer footing.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Biggles@8 July 2004 - 01:31
If Keikan were not the same race as the girl

What does his race matter.

He is Canadian and so is she, if we are to believe what we are told.

That makes no difference and does not change the fact that his explanation of how the paragraph was wrong was indicative of racism.

Unless you accept that people of the same race cannot be racist towards one and other. Which I consider to be wrong.

[manker]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@8 July 2004 - 00:44
Unless you accept that people of the same race cannot be racist towards one and other. Which I consider to be wrong.

thats fine because it&#39;s your opinion. one I do not share but I don&#39;t doubt your right to express it. I did, however, think it rather harsh that you labelled keikan a &#39;racist piece of shit&#39; because of this.

It seemed to me that he is just of the opinion that she should be proud of her heritage, as he is.

[Biggles]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+8 July 2004 - 00:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 8 July 2004 - 00:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Biggles@8 July 2004 - 01:31
If Keikan were not the same race as the girl

What does his race matter.

He is Canadian and so is she, if we are to believe what we are told.

That makes no difference and does not change the fact that his explanation of how the paragraph was wrong was indicative of racism.

Unless you accept that people of the same race cannot be racist towards one and other. Which I consider to be wrong. [/b][/quote]
It is possible - one does not have to look far afield to see it, albeit couched in religious sectarian garb.

My hesitation is not in the possibility but rather than the intent of what Keikan said. However, it is simply my reading of what was said - your interpretation could be equally correct.

Perhaps Keikan should expand on his meaning. Then whether it was racism or inverted racism might be more apparent. However, I am off to bed.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by Biggles@7 July 2004 - 23:08


However, I am off to bed.

Yeah, porn star Biggles.

All he wants is to do get his poppa swerve on.