For Gf6 Users (geforce 6 Series)

[atiVidia]

lets u manage ur antivirus, windows update, AND the windows firewall MUCH more easily

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@26 July 2004 - 14:25
i just realized something, why did they start the gf6 series at 6800? why not 6000 or 6200 or something...are they planning to work backwards?

its always been this way: they introduce the best, and work downwards from there. 5800 came last year, and was quickly replaced (5900) due to that fan we can effectively call a superblower (its performance was on par with the 9700 so performancewise it was fine).

i think before that came the titanium 4600? not sure if it was 46 or 48 that was the best model, but i think the 46 came first, and then the 48

before that, there was the geforce3 titanium 500. from there they mate the ti200, and the ti

i cant remember further back than that tho

[Tormentor]

If i install sp2 and choose to archive the files, if something goes wrong can i just ununstall it and have it go back to sp1 or am i fucked?

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by atiVidia@26 July 2004 - 14:55
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/1...x_9c_redist.exe

enjoy



this is the m$ v. not the sp2 hack

It still says Directx 9.0 b at MS website. Where did you find this? (the page that would have info on this)

[atiVidia]

dont ask me i just found it

the install sez dx9c, the file on m$ website sez dx9c, the dxdiag sez dx9c...

only some bug fixes and the death of ATI's best cards came with dx9c

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&DisplayLang=en

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by Tormentor@26 July 2004 - 20:18
If i install sp2 and choose to archive the files, if something goes wrong can i just ununstall it and have it go back to sp1 or am i fucked?

Don`t install it now, It is still beta !!!!!

@atiVidia

dont ask me i just found it

the install sez dx9c, the file on m$ website sez dx9c, the dxdiag sez dx9c...

only some bug fixes and the death of ATI's best cards came with dx9c smile.gif

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

I only understand 45% of that..

[Tormentor]

Originally posted by Ariel_001+26 July 2004 - 17:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ariel_001 @ 26 July 2004 - 17:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@26 July 2004 - 20:18
If i install sp2 and choose to archive the files, if something goes wrong can i just ununstall it and have it go back to sp1 or am i fucked?

Don`t install it now, It is still beta &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

@atiVidia

dont ask me i just found it

the install sez dx9c, the file on m&#036; website sez dx9c, the dxdiag sez dx9c...

only some bug fixes and the death of ATI&#39;s best cards came with dx9c smile.gif

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

I only understand 45% of that.. [/b][/quote]
I just want to give it a try and i want to know if it will be easy or safe to uninstall later.

[tesco]

Originally posted by Ariel_001+26 July 2004 - 19:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ariel_001 @ 26 July 2004 - 19:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@26 July 2004 - 20:18
If i install sp2 and choose to archive the files, if something goes wrong can i just ununstall it and have it go back to sp1 or am i fucked?

Don`t install it now, It is still beta &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

@atiVidia

dont ask me i just found it

the install sez dx9c, the file on m&#036; website sez dx9c, the dxdiag sez dx9c...

only some bug fixes and the death of ATI&#39;s best cards came with dx9c smile.gif

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

I only understand 45% of that.. [/b][/quote]
in teh latest build i haven&#39;t found any bugs or problems yet.

[atiVidia]

unsafe. once installed, even when uninstalled, you will watch your computer initiate its own demise

dx9c will bring about the doom of ati&#39;s current gen cards

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by atiVidia@26 July 2004 - 20:43
dx9c will bring about the doom of ati&#39;s current gen cards

because it uses one thing...ps3...i think not..it might be good but thats a very strong statement

Conclusion

With Shader Model 2.0b render path available now in a commercial product and functioning flawlessly ATI Technologies sends a clear message to gamers: excellent performance the RADEON X800 XT and the RADEON X800 PRO deliver now can be improved in future. Like with the case of the Shader Model 3.0 performance advantage provided today is not really huge, however, future titles that use more per-pixel lighting as well as geometry with higher complexity are unlikely to turn into something that the RADEON X800-series cannot bite.

Even though ATI considerably improved performance of the RADEON X800-series graphics cards in FarCry’s “Pure Mode”, NVIDIA’s GeForce 6800 Ultra still can claim performance leadership here, as in quite a lot of cases speed delivered by the GeForce 6800 Ultra is a bit higher compared to the rivalling RADEON X800 XT.

The same situation is effective for a bit less expensive graphics options – the GeForce 6800 GT and the RADEON X800 PRO – 16 pixel pipelines definitely help the former to beat the latter in quite a lot of cases.

It is important to point out that ATI’s RADEON X800 XT and PRO graphics cards handle extreme geometry load better compared to NVIDIA’s GeForce 6800 Ultra and GT, which may mean that from this point ATI’s visual processing units have higher future-proof than NVIDIA’s latest graphics processing units do.

Additionally, ATI’s RADEON X800 XT traditionally calculates complex pixel shaders faster than everything else available today. Unfortunately, the RADEON X800 PRO still lags behind the competing GeForce 6800 GT product, whereas the RADEON 9800 XT does not seem to be a really strong rival for the GeForce 6800, at least, in FarCry.

To sum everything up, it looks like both ATI and NVIDIA have some performance reserves with their latest families of graphics chips. In the following 6-9 months until the new breed of graphics processors emerges, we are not only going to see a fierce battle between ATI’s RADEON X800 and NVIDIA’s GeForce 6 architecture, but probably are also going to witness the competition between Shader Model 2.0b and Shader Model 3.0 render paths in terms of performance and possibly quality.

From the conclusion of this article