The Legallity Of File Sharing

[crashnburn]

economics.

suppy and demand.

its like controlling the worlds choice of music they listen to and then making sure that thos music is priced at such a level that, their million become billions and billions become trillions.

free enterprise is good. but not when companies reach proportions that they can push things around like they want to.

this is where p2p comes as not a totally legal but more so as revolutionary or rebel attitude.

what do u think if they made the price of every song / track as 1c to legally get or buy one. these companies would die ? Im not sure. Maybe maybe not.

Most enterprises should usually price their commodities at a BALANCE POINT!... this balance point is the balance point of supply and demand where it becomes a viable profit, and is not TOO MUCH of a profit that u are basically ripping off the customer.

the music industry has earned billions by exploiting that balance point and taking it higher... and now thanks to the plutocratic government they will influence the senators (with bribes, funds & campaign donations) to lobby laws that bind is more.

most people, by habit will not stop watchin/buying media. only thing is they will have MORE and MORE profit.

this is what needs to be CONTROLLED!

earning good money is not enough for them....
and when someone gets rich...at those proportions.. someone somewhere gets poor or loses a job or something. the balance of the system is exploited.

PS: Maybe socialism is not the key, but there needs to be a balance between free enterprise for profit and prevention of market exploitation.

[clocker]

I don't understand what the big problem is DLing movies anyway. I saw "Chicago" in a theater (twice&#33 and when the DVD comes out I'll buy that, too ( cause I want all the extra goodies they package with it). So I didn't deprive anyone of their cut of my pie just because I also have it on my harddrive (just kidding Miramax! this is hypothetical...).
Music CDs are another story, though. I can't remember the last CD I bought that wasn't 90% filler and it frosts my butt to have to pay $15 just to get the one decent track on the album. Why not just sell the music by the track? You amble into your local music emporium, specify 13-14 songs you want and they burn a CD right there on the spot. Everyone gets their royalties, commissions whatever and you get exactly what you want. Plus, the music companies don't have to dupe, ship and transport millions of units in the hope that some yahoo will buy them. I think that this would be a real eyeopener for many artists(??!&#33 who would discover that they only have one or two songs that anyone is willing to buy if people were offered the choice instead of having to gag on the whole albumwrap.
Not that this solves the concerns( all theirs&#33 about p2p, but really, given the choice of perfect uncorrupted files at a reasonable price and taking your chances on junk and fakes maybe a reasonable balance can be struck. Besides, even Sony can't afford the lawyers it would take to even put a dent in the phenomonon of p2p...

[Nanil]

Was flipping around and saw something interesting (amazing cause it was on public access)... Saw a session of the california senate going over p2p sharing today. The main p2p sharing they looked at was Sharmin networks. The state is looking to employ some people to "block" the sharing. There were reps from the music and movie insudtry, aswell as Kazaa.
I didn't think it possible from everything I've read from you guys. So I'll wait an see
-Nanil

[TIDE-HSV]

Nanil, as with many other things - that can only happen in California.

[clocker]

So true Tide-HSV... holding meaningless hearings is how politicians justify their existence. They can actually pass as many laws as they wish, but can you imagine any overworked cop or district attorney getting all lathered up over some geek with a few copyrighted files on his/her harddrive? After all, there are millions of jaywalkers they could be chasing...

[TIDE-HSV]

lol. I was living in New York City at the time of the World's Fair of 1964. In an attempt to control litter, the
City manned hordes of litter police mounted on motor scooters (Vespas, for you Europeans). They tagged you with a $50 fine (around $150, in today's currency)for careless after-droppings. Walt Kelly, author of "Pogo" spoofed this into litter patrols speeding around the swamp on motor scooters, but with a twist. These gendarmarie had machine guns mounted on the handle bars for summary judgment. I'm reminded of this tempest in a teapot - "BRAAAACK," and you're gone, you pirate.

[clocker]

Now that would be a solution that would get MY attention. But really, is slaughtering your potential customer base a good business plan? It' been so long since I was in school...

[TIDE-HSV]

Customer base?? I think their view of us is schizoid, to say the least. They can't decide if we're poor little lambs led astray or predators, red of fang and claw, lusting after the life's blood of their little fiefdom. Bit of both, aren't we? All we need is a bit of the velvet-gloved iron fist to go back to happily paying $20, US, for their CD trash. KA-CHING!! is all that it's about.

[ShareDaddy]

I'm back to this string. Had a few other things to say. First off the title of this string is the legality of file sharing. How can some of these people be replying about Kazaa living or dying? This is not what we were discussing. The sky is falling was not one of the topic drivers, please keep this to the legality aspect and not the other please.

To everyone else that actually discussed the topic. I want to say good show; it means you pay attention and that, now a days is very rare indeed. Hopefully this was done without the need for prescription medication, if so oh well, tis better to medicate and be coherent than not to medicate and be incoherent.

Share on my fellow members, live long and prosper. Teach the ways of the sharer to those you can teach and pray for those you cannot.

[lunatacs]

omg, these topics are becoming pointless. Yes its illagel, yes its like napster and yes it might shutdown. must you keep bring it up people? lets enjoy it till it lasts though something better will always replace it in due time so, who cares?